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hey everyone welcome to geofoahub

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livestream and today is open lines

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it um looks like we already have a few

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people in in the

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voice chat for telegram and we've been

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chatting for a little bit

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it's always nice just to get in touch

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with everyone

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and seeing how they're doing and getting

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the voice chat

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going in general for those of you who

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also want to join it's the worst chat is

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in telegram

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if you can simply download the app on

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your computer or

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on your phone install it as

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usually you can sign up by number phone

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number or an email

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and that should get you an account

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find the ufo hub group and you should be

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able to see us there

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um today i don't necessarily

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as i've always mentioned for anyone that

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just tuned in we do not have a guest

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we don't have any particular topic and

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um i was kind of

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running late uh coming in today so i

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didn't necessarily

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even prep anything new they might be out

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there to show to you

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all i simply wanted to come in and just

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chat with all of you

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over telegram and maybe even look at

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some

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chat questions uh if there are any and

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just basically hang out online

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i used to do this all the time when i

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was in san luis

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and uh but i don't get to do that very

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often

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so this way we're creating a online

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meeting for lack of a better word

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i this week and last week as you guys

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might have noticed it's been very busy

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for me in general because

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um i have a lot of things i need to do

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my wife is due any minute now and that

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was one of the reasons why i was

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when i was late she was having some

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pains and we're trying to discuss

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um doing what you you know tell me what

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the hospital now is this just one of

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those um

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uh what do you call them like these

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kind of like those those

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fake contractions if there's such a

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thing although they

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hurt a lot um but the doc said if

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she doesn't you know if she gets these

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strong contractions

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of at least four per hour that's when

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and she says she's nowhere close to that

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there's a lot going on i was also um

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i know a lot of a lot of times i don't

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get to discuss the environment here

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but every time i'm streaming whether i'm

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and just today i received a new one and

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it was the wrong one

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so i thought um for you know for a

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unit will be put in

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and um so if you see me constantly kind

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of clenching my fingers is because

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they're actually cold

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and i'm just trying not to jitter here

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anyway everything seems to be streaming

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um welcome everyone else that's that's

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in chat right now and so um

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yeah join us for for those that are

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in telegram if you would like to start

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out please just raise your hand

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so that i can i can see it otherwise

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i'll just chit-chat and kind of interact

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with whoever else is

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in um in chat right now

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there's bradley cortez welcome saying hi

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everyone

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um our sprockets welcome

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deb r welcome uh

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one of these times i'm gonna i might

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even ask you guys to

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take um before your question

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to actually also just put just a generic

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name even if it's not your name just

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bob or susan or something that i can

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just easily pronounce

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very uh colorful but also difficult to

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pronounce because half the time i'm not

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if um if i'm saying it right or if

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anyone is getting their feelings hurt

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oh yeah and also for those that have

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usually um this one gal in the chat room

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that always gives the countdown to

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how many more days are left for this

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disclosure that they had planned again

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as i mentioned before i don't think

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they're going to disclose much

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anything that's not already declassified

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so that right there tells you that there

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much there that they can talk about

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um elk

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elk rats welcome uh stargate traveler

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welcome fabrizio welcome

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seeing who else is here all right yeah

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and uh for those of you just uh

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logging in please join us on on telegram

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we're you know um we're just gonna and

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any topic is open anything metaphysical

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ufos aliens you name it this this is

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kind of the the show for that

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and i know i apologize for those that

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just are very

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agenda driven to say okay what's now

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what's next at this time at that time

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this is the one thing that i just don't

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have any specific

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control for so i'm just letting it go

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okay we have

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start whenever you're ready

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hey thank you so much for the live

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stream uh

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during these times of your family

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matters we all

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understand you know the situation uh as

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you've explained so

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yeah i just wanted to make some little

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chit chat until someone

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decides to raise their hand and decide

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to speak about their experience

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i would encourage i just went on your

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show probably what two weeks ago i think

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yeah yeah i think so yeah so i just

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wanted to share

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you know i decided to share my stories

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uh i saw like a bunch of

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i think three or four times that i've

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uh on unidentified right um the

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before it was something that i could

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uh disc shape and uh you know this was

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no drone this was no plane

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so i know that we call them unidentified

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we uh we have some understanding of uh

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some witnesses uh or you know

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people who've actually seen something

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something like that right right

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i don't think we you know like you said

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community take it

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uh to be the literal unidentified flying

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object translation you know it's it's

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basically anything

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if if we say ufo it means aliens flying

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ships uh uh whatever you know it's just

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like a general term

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that's what i found over the years i

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don't know if if you would

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agree with that yeah 100

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i do agree with that i just i want to be

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sensitive

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around you know the some of the people

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in the comment section in case

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someone gets triggered by that but um

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yeah i wanted to talk

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just really briefly again until someone

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shows up in one yeah

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so if i have the time i just wanted to

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you know just like we human beings we

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you know entities we have some people

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i i could only imagine with my limited

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out in space uh you know if they're i

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human beings here where we uh

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seem not to be able to get off the

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ground yet

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but i think regardless you know any

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living entity i think has

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the potential to have that kind of

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mindset either good or bad

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you know liz i i think i know in uh

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they they believe in this thing called

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the good dog and the bad dog

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within your own mind so sometimes we

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listen to the bad dog barking away and

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and it's easier for us to get carried

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away with these kinds of

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negative thoughts right so um just

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turning it down with uh

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with the ufo is that um i do think that

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there could be

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also very positive entities and i'm sure

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maybe some of your listeners or maybe

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yourself have uh interviewed people

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who've talked about

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you know these um good beings and

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and or i don't know if you've heard

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about the reptilians or the the grey

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aliens i think i might have heard

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actually from your own channel so

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yeah just wanted to chime in and say

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that right

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you know it's interesting um i hope you

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don't mind me sharing and

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mean at least i i followed what you were

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saying and now i'm not

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i don't think i'm switching any subjects

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here so if i am for that i apologize

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but you said reptilians and there was

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something that actually just

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i thought about this today out of

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everything that i could possibly

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thinking about

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you know um there was one particular

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experience talking about

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how i always said pay attention to your

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dreams because

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you know sometimes your dreams you know

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kind of uh you your subconscious working

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out of the day's events

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and and and whatnot and a lot of times

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you have to kind of write them down

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because it the two there's a lot of

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symbolism is too strange

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trying to to figure it out right away

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but if you write it down come back to it

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later it makes sense

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in different ways but these other uh

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dreams that i

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consider communications that are very

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straightforward very

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very um there's nothing confusing about

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it it's very clear

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right so um

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i found myself i can't remember

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obviously when i

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when i fell asleep because i i doubt

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that i was still sleeping but i found

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myself just staring

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down or at least looking into the eyes

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of a being and i the more i tried focus

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on it i realized it was a reptilian

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right and i immediately started freaking

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out and kind of

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backing up from it because it was very

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menacing to see

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you know there was nothing that it was

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doing to threaten me in any way but

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you know it's it's kind of like being

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too close to a snake or crocodile when

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you realize like oh you know

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and um but what happened was something

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that i didn't expect like i could just

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sense

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and also see the facial expression of of

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just kind of like

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you know and for those that are just

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listening it's kind of like um

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like uh like an annoyance or

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disappointment almost where you kind of

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smirk like

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oh not not this again type type feeling

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you know

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and then as i was backing up he was

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backing up and he had a full suit on

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you know full i guess a full space suit

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or whatever it is it was just a one

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piece

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and it was kind of walking into this

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weird way towards this

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um egg shape thing and that's when i

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started thinking it is so weird because

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in dreams you don't usually get to do

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that not that it's impossible

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but i was rationalizing my my experience

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you know i was looking to like

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what in the world is this you know like

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why am i seeing this and then

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he seems to be like walking this really

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weird way it's almost like

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seeing an alligator walking upright but

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with longer legs

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and shorter tail you know and anyway he

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just kind of turned around

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and kind of sat back into what looked

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like an

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egg with three fins which my

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understanding was

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this is some kind of craft i said but it

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can't be you know it's got no rockets

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it's

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too little to carry any kind of you know

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long-term term fuel you know but anyway

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he said backed into it

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it closed down into uh the door closed

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and it was seamless you couldn't see

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where the door was anymore it was just

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basically an egg and he just kind of

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flew up

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what surprised me the most and as i was

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looking up

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i saw even larger what i what i believe

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it was

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i guess would have been their ship or

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something that he was flying to

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but it was also very large and x-shaped

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and it was glowing

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bright yellowish and brownish colors

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and so i was just amazed that how could

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i not immediately pay attention to that

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because it was right above me and

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hovering so low

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and as i was paying attention to it it

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just kind of

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um this telepathic message

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came from it and it was just kind of a

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greeting it wasn't a word but if i had

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to translate it into

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words it would be kind of like hello or

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greetings or something

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something along those terms because it

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wasn't auditory you know

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and i just freaked out to you know to be

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to look at something that big that large

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and be

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self-aware or have consciousness you

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know and this was like way back when

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when i was still

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you know having all these weird

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experiences and trying to make

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make some sense of it and then of course

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i just got up

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from my bed you know and then again i

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wasn't tired i wasn't yawning i wasn't

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you know any of that it was almost as if

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i just

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you know was you know traveling

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wherever that is and so anyway i'm sorry

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you just

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reminded me of that story again when you

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said reptilians and i just felt like and

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i needed to share it and i figured why

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not now

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yeah thank you for sharing that i think

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we all uh enjoy

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really like listening to these kinds of

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uh experiences

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uh whether they're in you know dream

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form or

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you know real life but i do i do want to

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say that um

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i've had some pretty vivid dreams and uh

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i i don't keep my journal right beside

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my bed anymore but i

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i used to just a few a few months ago

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and it's it's very

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um interesting i i wouldn't i don't know

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if i would say

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i would i would only say beneficial only

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if you're trying to look back and seeing

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how much

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you've progressed in terms of um you

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know your life and

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experiences that have shaped you to be

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you know where you are now

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um but i do see the importance of

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writing things down so

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uh really good uh good on you for

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writing or for keeping a journal and

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and especially with these vivid dreams

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i know i had one and i'm going back to i

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don't know if i can share mine right now

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i actually

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i wrote it all down as soon as i woke up

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from it but it was a very

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yeah so if i may just share

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uh just one entry no please go ahead i

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mean like i said

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this is all of us just chatting and

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hanging out online and you're the only

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one who wants to speak at this time so

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you you have the floor and if anyone

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else wants to say something please join

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us otherwise um

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you know you just stuck with us

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yeah again i encourage people to just

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come forward and

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you know don't be shy this is a

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community-based

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chat or a podcast so anyways this is

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from

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march 4th uh to the fifth so it's that i

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actually make titles for these uh

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entries and i call it swimming in a

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crowd finding something

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trust and follow that uh sorry finding

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something out

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trust and follow the dolphins so let me

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get to it

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um i will come from a very intense dream

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i saw myself in a world

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where it was clear by the way these

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entries are

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i've never really shared them with

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anyone aside from like my significant

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uh partner so just bear with uh

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the the writing style and so on this is

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very personal so understood thank you

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for sharing

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yeah thank you so i saw myself in a

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world where it was clear to me that i

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could see people suffer and

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not knowing how to control their

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emotions and i put in parentheses my

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cousin and my dad i guess i saw them in

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in that vivid dream what i would call a

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lucid dream

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later in my dream i found myself in a

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place full of people with different

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goals in life

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however at one point we were all in a

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boat looking for a missing person

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and we were all told to say something

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repeatedly

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or everyone was just saying the same

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example we are

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trying to find you times 10 but i

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snapped back and i knew that i should be

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praying and so i did after this we were

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all swimming in a pool and some of us

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were diving deep

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for some reason i would see myself

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telling two girls that i wanted to meet

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a girl who was rich in spirituality and

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beautiful

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this was after um sorry

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this was after they approached me

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telling me that they wanted to set me up

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for the girl bear with me again once

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again

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um when we were swimming i would see

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some people look at parts of the pool

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where it was completely black

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deep waters and scared to swim or dive

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by it

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however i continued to perform dives

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with tricks

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i remember that i dove with an intention

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of diving deep down

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i dove deep down and my in my dream all

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of a sudden change in a way that i was

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able to recognize

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i was i was under control in a physical

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slash mental state

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it seemed as though we were all in a

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simulation

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as i as i came back up from the dive and

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after floating for a bit

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i felt a magnetic pull so strong it was

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out of my control

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i looked around and yelled out sorry i

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looked around and yelled out loud asking

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if anybody had felt this pull

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two people felt it while the rest didn't

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the pull happened again

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and i noticed i noticed uh i said i i

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noticed visually so i guess what if i

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can remember

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um it was like very magnetic pull

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in within like a swimming pool or a lake

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as i was trying to describe it and i

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felt like

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we were all kind of being dragged

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towards this

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uh wherever this magnetic force is

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coming from

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so i'll continue on some people being uh

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moved by this

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pull at this point of my dream i came to

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feel as though i was aware of something

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i wasn't supposed to know

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and all of a sudden everything quote

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unquote turned off

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we were all disconnected i felt like i

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was conscious but i

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i drowned in the pool with everyone else

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and i could not do anything about it as

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i thought

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found myself awake

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now in land it seemed as though we were

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part of a huge world

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uh of a playhouse where we our actions

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were predetermined or somehow controlled

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but i was free to roam around within the

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same consciousness i had before the

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disconnection

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i walked around seeing a boy and a girl

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interact the one thing

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uh the one talking something sorry the

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one taking something from the other

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affecting each other's emotions at this

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point i understood that i was

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in full awareness of consequences

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abilities knowing reactions

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but i did not do anything i forgot to

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mention that while at the pool

570
00:23:53,830 --> 00:23:51,200
with everyone swimming and after the

571
00:23:57,029 --> 00:23:53,840
magnetic pull i told everyone that i was

572
00:23:59,029 --> 00:23:57,039
a one-point observant from sorry

573
00:24:01,110 --> 00:23:59,039
i told everyone that i was at one point

574
00:24:02,390 --> 00:24:01,120
observing from a glass above them their

575
00:24:04,950 --> 00:24:02,400
actions and how they

576
00:24:06,870 --> 00:24:04,960
had consequences and i warned them that

577
00:24:07,750 --> 00:24:06,880
i thought they were somehow being

578
00:24:10,310 --> 00:24:07,760
controlled

579
00:24:12,390 --> 00:24:10,320
so that's like that was the end of my

580
00:24:14,950 --> 00:24:12,400
entry and when i woke up i

581
00:24:15,909 --> 00:24:14,960
i i didn't know what to make of this

582
00:24:18,950 --> 00:24:15,919
really but

583
00:24:20,630 --> 00:24:18,960
now that i'm reading it and uh you know

584
00:24:21,669 --> 00:24:20,640
just trying to make sense of these kinds

585
00:24:24,789 --> 00:24:21,679
of dreams um

586
00:24:26,630 --> 00:24:24,799
i can only um you know just share

587
00:24:28,070 --> 00:24:26,640
what i think about it right many people

588
00:24:30,230 --> 00:24:28,080
can can just say oh

589
00:24:31,830 --> 00:24:30,240
you know this is just a weird you know

590
00:24:33,350 --> 00:24:31,840
you're swimming and whatever kind of

591
00:24:35,830 --> 00:24:33,360
dream that you had is

592
00:24:38,470 --> 00:24:35,840
weird right but to me it's like very

593
00:24:41,269 --> 00:24:38,480
like introspective like i see

594
00:24:41,590 --> 00:24:41,279
um our consciousness as a as a whole you

595
00:24:45,830 --> 00:24:41,600
know

596
00:24:46,310 --> 00:24:45,840
to there kind of like a pendulum swing

597
00:24:47,909 --> 00:24:46,320
right

598
00:24:49,350 --> 00:24:47,919
we're being we're being told these

599
00:24:52,710 --> 00:24:49,360
things and sometimes we're

600
00:24:55,669 --> 00:24:52,720
you know deviating from uh

601
00:24:56,310 --> 00:24:55,679
in another way and so i started to

602
00:24:58,630 --> 00:24:56,320
actually

603
00:25:00,789 --> 00:24:58,640
dig really deep down the rabbit hole in

604
00:25:03,830 --> 00:25:00,799
terms of

605
00:25:06,070 --> 00:25:03,840
ufos and agendas and you know

606
00:25:08,630 --> 00:25:06,080
some some people would call them

607
00:25:11,830 --> 00:25:08,640
conspiracy theories right

608
00:25:13,110 --> 00:25:11,840
now this by doing this you can actually

609
00:25:15,510 --> 00:25:13,120
get yourself

610
00:25:16,630 --> 00:25:15,520
uh in to a state of mind that can be

611
00:25:18,870 --> 00:25:16,640
very disturbing

612
00:25:20,470 --> 00:25:18,880
especially when you find out you know

613
00:25:22,950 --> 00:25:20,480
for example there is a thing called

614
00:25:24,950 --> 00:25:22,960
agenda 21 or agenda 20

615
00:25:27,029 --> 00:25:24,960
2030 or 2050 or something like that

616
00:25:29,110 --> 00:25:27,039
right right

617
00:25:30,950 --> 00:25:29,120
i'm not sure if you're aware of this but

618
00:25:33,269 --> 00:25:30,960
uh okay so

619
00:25:35,269 --> 00:25:33,279
yeah so if you you know if you go down

620
00:25:39,110 --> 00:25:35,279
those kinds of rabbit holes and

621
00:25:42,390 --> 00:25:40,710
really play with like those things can

622
00:25:43,350 --> 00:25:42,400
actually play with your mind just like

623
00:25:46,230 --> 00:25:43,360
you know

624
00:25:47,750 --> 00:25:46,240
um let's say the media can can tell you

625
00:25:51,430 --> 00:25:47,760
a story and that can actually

626
00:25:53,750 --> 00:25:51,440
uh impact you in a way that it impacts

627
00:25:55,190 --> 00:25:53,760
your whole body in a sense right if you

628
00:25:56,630 --> 00:25:55,200
put something in your mind some kind of

629
00:25:59,029 --> 00:25:56,640
a fear let's say

630
00:26:00,310 --> 00:25:59,039
so like for example agenda 21 or

631
00:26:01,669 --> 00:26:00,320
something like this that is kind of like

632
00:26:04,310 --> 00:26:01,679
scary to know like

633
00:26:05,110 --> 00:26:04,320
is this real or is it not real um you

634
00:26:08,470 --> 00:26:05,120
can

635
00:26:11,750 --> 00:26:08,480
your your not only your

636
00:26:13,669 --> 00:26:11,760
your mind but also your body and uh

637
00:26:15,110 --> 00:26:13,679
so anyways just reflecting on this dream

638
00:26:17,750 --> 00:26:15,120
it's uh you know

639
00:26:19,269 --> 00:26:17,760
i'm trying to like dive really deep down

640
00:26:21,669 --> 00:26:19,279
and uh trying to find

641
00:26:22,710 --> 00:26:21,679
the truth within what we call the

642
00:26:24,870 --> 00:26:22,720
consciousness

643
00:26:26,310 --> 00:26:24,880
where we're floating in or where we're

644
00:26:28,870 --> 00:26:26,320
you know stationed

645
00:26:31,430 --> 00:26:28,880
right so well i think um you know if i

646
00:26:34,789 --> 00:26:31,440
if i might add when it comes to dreams

647
00:26:37,269 --> 00:26:34,799
um this is not anything particular that

648
00:26:38,230 --> 00:26:37,279
that i can point you to somebody i guess

649
00:26:40,710 --> 00:26:38,240
that that can

650
00:26:41,269 --> 00:26:40,720
um talk a bit more intelligently about

651
00:26:43,430 --> 00:26:41,279
this

652
00:26:45,350 --> 00:26:43,440
but just uh from my personal experience

653
00:26:47,430 --> 00:26:45,360
i found that

654
00:26:48,950 --> 00:26:47,440
um when i was you know like you

655
00:26:50,310 --> 00:26:48,960
mentioned earlier just being into

656
00:26:52,390 --> 00:26:50,320
spirituality and trying to understand

657
00:26:54,230 --> 00:26:52,400
what this is all about um

658
00:26:55,590 --> 00:26:54,240
when it comes to dreams it's a lot of

659
00:26:58,230 --> 00:26:55,600
the unresolved

660
00:26:59,510 --> 00:26:58,240
feelings and emotions that are still

661
00:27:02,630 --> 00:26:59,520
playing themselves out

662
00:27:05,110 --> 00:27:02,640
and of course what the brain does

663
00:27:06,230 --> 00:27:05,120
you know being developed for what it is

664
00:27:09,110 --> 00:27:06,240
um

665
00:27:09,590 --> 00:27:09,120
it it has to overpresent something

666
00:27:12,950 --> 00:27:09,600
that's

667
00:27:15,029 --> 00:27:12,960
visible you know and so of course then

668
00:27:16,630 --> 00:27:15,039
um these different pictures you know

669
00:27:18,470 --> 00:27:16,640
they seem weird but it's

670
00:27:21,190 --> 00:27:18,480
those pictures is what they represent to

671
00:27:24,070 --> 00:27:21,200
us regarding a specific emotion

672
00:27:25,269 --> 00:27:24,080
now of course there's like a um i

673
00:27:29,190 --> 00:27:25,279
believe this is like a

674
00:27:33,590 --> 00:27:31,430
what you might call it like a missing

675
00:27:37,110 --> 00:27:33,600
the words here

676
00:27:39,269 --> 00:27:37,120
general dictionary for certain emotions

677
00:27:41,590 --> 00:27:39,279
to be linked with certain imagery

678
00:27:42,630 --> 00:27:41,600
like uh what do snakes represent in

679
00:27:44,950 --> 00:27:42,640
dreams what

680
00:27:46,149 --> 00:27:44,960
do uh certain animals represent in

681
00:27:49,350 --> 00:27:46,159
dreams and they

682
00:27:51,669 --> 00:27:49,360
and they kind of um you know

683
00:27:52,789 --> 00:27:51,679
these different dream interpreters i'm

684
00:27:55,110 --> 00:27:52,799
sure they can kind of

685
00:27:55,830 --> 00:27:55,120
break it down and tell you all about it

686
00:27:57,750 --> 00:27:55,840
um

687
00:27:59,430 --> 00:27:57,760
oh my goodness what is the word like a

688
00:28:04,389 --> 00:27:59,440
universal

689
00:28:06,870 --> 00:28:04,399
that's kind of true for everyone so that

690
00:28:10,149 --> 00:28:06,880
if you have dreamt about

691
00:28:11,669 --> 00:28:10,159
um certain animals that

692
00:28:13,590 --> 00:28:11,679
doesn't matter where in the planet you

693
00:28:15,510 --> 00:28:13,600
are that animal has the same meaning to

694
00:28:16,549 --> 00:28:15,520
you same representation of what it

695
00:28:19,350 --> 00:28:16,559
represents

696
00:28:21,430 --> 00:28:19,360
you know yeah right and then but then

697
00:28:21,750 --> 00:28:21,440
there's some that are very specific to

698
00:28:23,510 --> 00:28:21,760
you

699
00:28:25,510 --> 00:28:23,520
that that's the the challenging part of

700
00:28:27,430 --> 00:28:25,520
having to figure out what did what does

701
00:28:30,710 --> 00:28:27,440
that emotion mean at that time

702
00:28:34,149 --> 00:28:30,720
you know i've been um i interviewed um

703
00:28:36,310 --> 00:28:34,159
um it was called um

704
00:28:38,310 --> 00:28:36,320
oh my goodness i can't i can't remember

705
00:28:40,710 --> 00:28:38,320
anything today

706
00:28:43,430 --> 00:28:40,720
let me look it up uh it's basically he's

707
00:28:46,549 --> 00:28:43,440
um uh he got into dreams long time ago

708
00:28:49,750 --> 00:28:46,559
and he david ravinus that's his name

709
00:28:51,990 --> 00:28:49,760
david ravinus he's um i think

710
00:28:53,029 --> 00:28:52,000
author of the book is always dreaming or

711
00:28:55,350 --> 00:28:53,039
something like that

712
00:28:57,990 --> 00:28:55,360
maybe not i'm butchering it right now

713
00:29:01,269 --> 00:28:58,000
but what i'm trying to say is that

714
00:29:03,510 --> 00:29:01,279
he kind of discovered through

715
00:29:04,470 --> 00:29:03,520
simply through psychology and how he

716
00:29:06,470 --> 00:29:04,480
started out

717
00:29:08,149 --> 00:29:06,480
that there's this connection to what's

718
00:29:10,870 --> 00:29:08,159
actually happening in real life

719
00:29:12,789 --> 00:29:10,880
is also a representation you know in the

720
00:29:15,029 --> 00:29:12,799
same way that a dream would be

721
00:29:16,310 --> 00:29:15,039
so that if something happens in your

722
00:29:19,269 --> 00:29:16,320
waking state

723
00:29:20,710 --> 00:29:19,279
that is sort of a symbol to you you know

724
00:29:23,110 --> 00:29:20,720
that needs to be looked at

725
00:29:23,830 --> 00:29:23,120
something that most people like myself

726
00:29:25,830 --> 00:29:23,840
and others

727
00:29:27,669 --> 00:29:25,840
kind of discover when they get on the

728
00:29:29,669 --> 00:29:27,679
spiritual spiritual path

729
00:29:31,029 --> 00:29:29,679
not really connected to any kind of

730
00:29:33,110 --> 00:29:31,039
field of study

731
00:29:34,950 --> 00:29:33,120
you know like psychology uh you know and

732
00:29:37,430 --> 00:29:34,960
something that you discover after

733
00:29:38,230 --> 00:29:37,440
you know a dmt trip or ayahuasca or

734
00:29:41,590 --> 00:29:38,240
whatever

735
00:29:44,710 --> 00:29:41,600
you know where you realize that um

736
00:29:46,710 --> 00:29:44,720
you are always dreaming and that

737
00:29:47,750 --> 00:29:46,720
everything that happens to you for

738
00:29:51,350 --> 00:29:47,760
example

739
00:29:53,110 --> 00:29:51,360
before everything happened in my life to

740
00:29:56,149 --> 00:29:53,120
just kind of snowball into this whole

741
00:29:59,190 --> 00:29:56,159
new direction i was

742
00:30:03,029 --> 00:29:59,200
let's just give you a stark comparison

743
00:30:05,190 --> 00:30:03,039
i was single living by myself

744
00:30:06,389 --> 00:30:05,200
where i was working in a totally

745
00:30:08,470 --> 00:30:06,399
different town

746
00:30:09,510 --> 00:30:08,480
and this one particular event was i was

747
00:30:11,110 --> 00:30:09,520
driving and

748
00:30:13,029 --> 00:30:11,120
out of nowhere it could there was

749
00:30:15,909 --> 00:30:13,039
nothing i could do about a deer

750
00:30:18,310 --> 00:30:15,919
just jumped up and hit hit the you know

751
00:30:19,110 --> 00:30:18,320
hit the car hit it and it went over the

752
00:30:21,669 --> 00:30:19,120
windshield

753
00:30:23,029 --> 00:30:21,679
and i pulled over and it had i believe i

754
00:30:24,950 --> 00:30:23,039
broke its spine

755
00:30:26,710 --> 00:30:24,960
and it had you know he couldn't move and

756
00:30:29,750 --> 00:30:26,720
i just felt i felt horrible

757
00:30:32,389 --> 00:30:29,760
you know i felt horrible and i called

758
00:30:34,870 --> 00:30:32,399
i guess the the people that i guess i

759
00:30:36,630 --> 00:30:34,880
call 9-1-1 they sent somebody over

760
00:30:38,149 --> 00:30:36,640
and the cop literally just asked me said

761
00:30:40,789 --> 00:30:38,159
do you want to meet

762
00:30:42,789 --> 00:30:40,799
i was like uh what you know i was more

763
00:30:44,070 --> 00:30:42,799
distraught of i just heard something or

764
00:30:46,310 --> 00:30:44,080
someone you know

765
00:30:47,510 --> 00:30:46,320
and he's you know looking at it as you

766
00:30:51,510 --> 00:30:47,520
know no

767
00:30:53,350 --> 00:30:51,520
like um you know as deer meat basically

768
00:30:55,029 --> 00:30:53,360
it's like i'm going to kill it and

769
00:30:57,750 --> 00:30:55,039
take it somewhere else if you don't want

770
00:31:00,549 --> 00:30:57,760
to meet this is what's going to happen

771
00:31:01,830 --> 00:31:00,559
and i just i was kind of kind of shaken

772
00:31:04,230 --> 00:31:01,840
by the experience but

773
00:31:05,830 --> 00:31:04,240
also just kind of confused by the

774
00:31:07,190 --> 00:31:05,840
questions he was asking because he's so

775
00:31:09,750 --> 00:31:07,200
nonchalant about it

776
00:31:13,269 --> 00:31:09,760
anyway so i said no i was able to get

777
00:31:15,669 --> 00:31:13,279
back in my car and i started going back

778
00:31:17,669 --> 00:31:15,679
after that everything in my life changed

779
00:31:20,470 --> 00:31:17,679
i moved to arkansas

780
00:31:21,669 --> 00:31:20,480
you know met my wife uh you know got the

781
00:31:24,549 --> 00:31:21,679
new job

782
00:31:26,870 --> 00:31:24,559
all of it like literally 180 in my life

783
00:31:27,430 --> 00:31:26,880
not that where i was going was any any

784
00:31:29,110 --> 00:31:27,440
bad

785
00:31:31,430 --> 00:31:29,120
there was nothing wrong with it it's

786
00:31:34,230 --> 00:31:31,440
just the deer later on i learned

787
00:31:35,830 --> 00:31:34,240
symbolizes a great change and you want

788
00:31:37,190 --> 00:31:35,840
to talk about a great change but just

789
00:31:39,590 --> 00:31:37,200
having a deer

790
00:31:41,830 --> 00:31:39,600
you know head on smack the car you know

791
00:31:43,430 --> 00:31:41,840
and now of course you can say well

792
00:31:45,509 --> 00:31:43,440
you know there's so many deer on the

793
00:31:45,990 --> 00:31:45,519
road there's hundreds if not thousands

794
00:31:48,230 --> 00:31:46,000
of people

795
00:31:49,669 --> 00:31:48,240
that you know hit a deer with the car

796
00:31:50,230 --> 00:31:49,679
you know and it's like that doesn't mean

797
00:31:53,029 --> 00:31:50,240
anything

798
00:31:54,470 --> 00:31:53,039
but when you have that understanding

799
00:31:56,950 --> 00:31:54,480
that that's what that means

800
00:31:58,630 --> 00:31:56,960
and you just personally take it into

801
00:32:01,830 --> 00:31:58,640
your life and see how does this

802
00:32:04,710 --> 00:32:01,840
you know work for me you'll see an

803
00:32:06,070 --> 00:32:04,720
actual you know representation like this

804
00:32:07,590 --> 00:32:06,080
is valid for you

805
00:32:09,830 --> 00:32:07,600
now of course if you want to be a

806
00:32:11,430 --> 00:32:09,840
naysayer you can of course you know

807
00:32:13,190 --> 00:32:11,440
talk it away and have some kind of

808
00:32:15,269 --> 00:32:13,200
excuse but

809
00:32:17,190 --> 00:32:15,279
that was pretty interesting because you

810
00:32:18,389 --> 00:32:17,200
know i was already kind of started to

811
00:32:20,310 --> 00:32:18,399
become aware of

812
00:32:22,230 --> 00:32:20,320
of that because of my experiences like

813
00:32:23,669 --> 00:32:22,240
it messes with your reality you kind of

814
00:32:26,710 --> 00:32:23,679
start realizing

815
00:32:29,190 --> 00:32:26,720
well existence is like a dream

816
00:32:31,269 --> 00:32:29,200
upon a dream upon a dream you know every

817
00:32:33,750 --> 00:32:31,279
time

818
00:32:34,870 --> 00:32:33,760
i'm sorry you say that again i was gonna

819
00:32:38,310 --> 00:32:34,880
go there too so

820
00:32:40,230 --> 00:32:38,320
you know the um you know this dream

821
00:32:43,029 --> 00:32:40,240
sorry this life potentially being a

822
00:32:46,870 --> 00:32:43,039
dream right um

823
00:32:47,750 --> 00:32:46,880
anyway sorry go continue right no i mean

824
00:32:49,509 --> 00:32:47,760
that's exactly

825
00:32:51,669 --> 00:32:49,519
what it is so i've been kind of paying

826
00:32:53,430 --> 00:32:51,679
attention to to that in those terms

827
00:32:55,509 --> 00:32:53,440
those in the interview that i did with

828
00:32:57,190 --> 00:32:55,519
david ravinus he gave an example

829
00:32:58,549 --> 00:32:57,200
which was pretty interesting it's about

830
00:32:59,909 --> 00:32:58,559
a gentleman that had

831
00:33:01,830 --> 00:32:59,919
some health issues and i believe

832
00:33:04,630 --> 00:33:01,840
something with his diabetes

833
00:33:05,669 --> 00:33:04,640
right and he he came home and he had

834
00:33:07,509 --> 00:33:05,679
some marmalade

835
00:33:09,190 --> 00:33:07,519
that he really loved to eat i believe

836
00:33:09,669 --> 00:33:09,200
was orange marmalade or something like

837
00:33:12,149 --> 00:33:09,679
that

838
00:33:14,789 --> 00:33:12,159
and he had brought it home and the back

839
00:33:16,710 --> 00:33:14,799
bro the bag broke or something somehow

840
00:33:18,389 --> 00:33:16,720
happened to where the marmalade

841
00:33:19,830 --> 00:33:18,399
had fallen down and splattered

842
00:33:22,230 --> 00:33:19,840
everywhere right

843
00:33:23,029 --> 00:33:22,240
and so i never really you know at that

844
00:33:24,789 --> 00:33:23,039
time i didn't

845
00:33:26,549 --> 00:33:24,799
think twice about it i'm like okay cool

846
00:33:28,870 --> 00:33:26,559
story but then he broke it down for me

847
00:33:30,870 --> 00:33:28,880
to where what does the flow represent

848
00:33:32,950 --> 00:33:30,880
what does the the marmalade with the

849
00:33:33,509 --> 00:33:32,960
shards of glass inside represent you

850
00:33:36,630 --> 00:33:33,519
know

851
00:33:37,590 --> 00:33:36,640
the the the diabetes and the harmfulness

852
00:33:38,870 --> 00:33:37,600
in your bloodstream

853
00:33:41,509 --> 00:33:38,880
and all this other stuff you see what i

854
00:33:43,269 --> 00:33:41,519
mean and he just was breaking it down i

855
00:33:45,029 --> 00:33:43,279
maybe not doing the justice maybe i'm

856
00:33:46,710 --> 00:33:45,039
butchering something but

857
00:33:48,149 --> 00:33:46,720
you can watch it on your for hobbies

858
00:33:51,669 --> 00:33:48,159
david ravinus

859
00:33:53,750 --> 00:33:51,679
and um it was it was interesting to just

860
00:33:57,110 --> 00:33:53,760
kind of know that there's someone that

861
00:33:58,710 --> 00:33:57,120
um for those that are

862
00:34:00,149 --> 00:33:58,720
there's different people that always

863
00:34:01,909 --> 00:34:00,159
thought out of spiritual path in

864
00:34:03,990 --> 00:34:01,919
different ways you know sometimes they

865
00:34:05,190 --> 00:34:04,000
started out with ayahuasca sometimes

866
00:34:06,710 --> 00:34:05,200
they started out by

867
00:34:09,030 --> 00:34:06,720
just simply being a student of

868
00:34:10,710 --> 00:34:09,040
psychology or something you know or

869
00:34:12,069 --> 00:34:10,720
you know they're driving a truck one day

870
00:34:13,669 --> 00:34:12,079
and the next thing you know they want to

871
00:34:14,149 --> 00:34:13,679
understand why they're here and what

872
00:34:16,069 --> 00:34:14,159
this

873
00:34:17,589 --> 00:34:16,079
universe is all about you know so

874
00:34:18,389 --> 00:34:17,599
obviously there's all these different

875
00:34:21,510 --> 00:34:18,399
ways

876
00:34:24,310 --> 00:34:21,520
but um what's interesting is that um

877
00:34:24,950 --> 00:34:24,320
he at least i don't know i didn't ask

878
00:34:28,069 --> 00:34:24,960
him he

879
00:34:30,470 --> 00:34:28,079
didn't do any kind of um drugs or

880
00:34:31,109 --> 00:34:30,480
lsd i don't i don't call him drugs

881
00:34:32,550 --> 00:34:31,119
there's a

882
00:34:34,629 --> 00:34:32,560
there should be a different word for

883
00:34:37,909 --> 00:34:34,639
those because you know

884
00:34:41,510 --> 00:34:37,919
street i don't know

885
00:34:42,629 --> 00:34:41,520
what i'll say that again psychedelic

886
00:34:44,470 --> 00:34:42,639
substances

887
00:34:45,909 --> 00:34:44,480
right but i'm talking about that all

888
00:34:47,430 --> 00:34:45,919
these words come with negative

889
00:34:48,470 --> 00:34:47,440
connotations you know there should be

890
00:34:50,629 --> 00:34:48,480
like um

891
00:34:51,669 --> 00:34:50,639
a different word for it you know just

892
00:34:53,589 --> 00:34:51,679
something because

893
00:34:56,069 --> 00:34:53,599
a lot of my experiences i mean i've

894
00:34:58,710 --> 00:34:56,079
never experienced

895
00:35:00,550 --> 00:34:58,720
like a lot of times you know they always

896
00:35:02,950 --> 00:35:00,560
afraid of the side effects of

897
00:35:03,670 --> 00:35:02,960
what it does to you and i'm like well

898
00:35:05,349 --> 00:35:03,680
excuse me

899
00:35:06,790 --> 00:35:05,359
everyone that knows my story there were

900
00:35:09,589 --> 00:35:06,800
seven different instances

901
00:35:11,670 --> 00:35:09,599
where i uh purposely and specifically

902
00:35:15,430 --> 00:35:11,680
went to try these different

903
00:35:17,670 --> 00:35:15,440
psychedelics and you know i went from

904
00:35:19,030 --> 00:35:17,680
not knowing where what i'm doing where

905
00:35:22,150 --> 00:35:19,040
i'm going to

906
00:35:23,990 --> 00:35:22,160
literally uh straighten out my life

907
00:35:25,510 --> 00:35:24,000
starting a business you know and having

908
00:35:28,630 --> 00:35:25,520
a purpose you know

909
00:35:30,470 --> 00:35:28,640
and it's like i wish maybe occasionally

910
00:35:32,390 --> 00:35:30,480
you know someone would

911
00:35:33,910 --> 00:35:32,400
you know have a chance to take some lsd

912
00:35:34,790 --> 00:35:33,920
themselves and just kind of have that

913
00:35:37,510 --> 00:35:34,800
experience

914
00:35:38,790 --> 00:35:37,520
you know but then again i'm i'm not

915
00:35:40,550 --> 00:35:38,800
there's just a suggestion

916
00:35:41,829 --> 00:35:40,560
not saying you all should go out there

917
00:35:43,750 --> 00:35:41,839
and do it but

918
00:35:45,030 --> 00:35:43,760
what i'm saying is i didn't see any side

919
00:35:48,069 --> 00:35:45,040
effect of it it's like it

920
00:35:51,349 --> 00:35:48,079
made everyone that i've personally met

921
00:35:54,470 --> 00:35:51,359
has literally given them a drive in life

922
00:35:55,750 --> 00:35:54,480
you know and uh mainstream would not not

923
00:35:57,510 --> 00:35:55,760
want to look at those

924
00:35:59,430 --> 00:35:57,520
in that way they always always want to

925
00:36:03,109 --> 00:35:59,440
attach a negative

926
00:36:07,190 --> 00:36:03,119
connotation to it yeah i i have

927
00:36:09,349 --> 00:36:07,200
personally experienced with like

928
00:36:10,710 --> 00:36:09,359
mushrooms and magic mushrooms whatever

929
00:36:14,069 --> 00:36:10,720
you want to call them

930
00:36:16,230 --> 00:36:14,079
i've also experienced with marijuana

931
00:36:17,190 --> 00:36:16,240
and obviously not obvious sorry but um

932
00:36:20,230 --> 00:36:17,200
i've also

933
00:36:22,790 --> 00:36:20,240
experienced with alcohol so

934
00:36:23,829 --> 00:36:22,800
um i'm free like i'm not doing any of

935
00:36:26,790 --> 00:36:23,839
those three

936
00:36:28,069 --> 00:36:26,800
anymore but i definitely have my own

937
00:36:30,790 --> 00:36:28,079
take on it right

938
00:36:31,829 --> 00:36:30,800
in terms of uh what it does to me

939
00:36:34,870 --> 00:36:31,839
personally

940
00:36:37,270 --> 00:36:34,880
um or you know i mean you can go really

941
00:36:39,349 --> 00:36:37,280
down to the google you know research and

942
00:36:42,470 --> 00:36:39,359
and you know try to find out how these

943
00:36:45,589 --> 00:36:42,480
three different i think uh

944
00:36:49,030 --> 00:36:45,599
alcohol and and

945
00:36:52,230 --> 00:36:49,040
sorry marijuana have like these um

946
00:36:54,790 --> 00:36:52,240
uh suppressing um things within him

947
00:36:55,510 --> 00:36:54,800
uh whereas mush like magic mushrooms

948
00:36:57,349 --> 00:36:55,520
they what

949
00:36:59,109 --> 00:36:57,359
what they did to me as opposed to

950
00:36:59,829 --> 00:36:59,119
suppress my feelings and so on they

951
00:37:02,950 --> 00:36:59,839
actually

952
00:37:06,710 --> 00:37:02,960
enhanced every aspect of those

953
00:37:08,630 --> 00:37:06,720
i guess feelings and and some vision and

954
00:37:10,230 --> 00:37:08,640
i wouldn't say hearing but more vision

955
00:37:12,870 --> 00:37:10,240
and so it actually

956
00:37:13,510 --> 00:37:12,880
affected my brain in that way um

957
00:37:16,150 --> 00:37:13,520
actually

958
00:37:18,630 --> 00:37:16,160
funny enough that is another way aside

959
00:37:20,630 --> 00:37:18,640
from you seeing ufos is that's how i

960
00:37:21,990 --> 00:37:20,640
also got myself into spirituality so

961
00:37:22,630 --> 00:37:22,000
like you said you know some people go

962
00:37:26,870 --> 00:37:22,640
through

963
00:37:30,710 --> 00:37:26,880
witnessing

964
00:37:33,829 --> 00:37:30,720
uh ufos and also trying some

965
00:37:36,069 --> 00:37:33,839
some magic mushrooms and also acid

966
00:37:38,390 --> 00:37:36,079
i only tried acid one time but i

967
00:37:41,109 --> 00:37:38,400
wouldn't really recommend it to anyone

968
00:37:43,270 --> 00:37:41,119
um if anything you know for a better

969
00:37:45,190 --> 00:37:43,280
word i think

970
00:37:46,390 --> 00:37:45,200
you know magic mushrooms because they

971
00:37:49,030 --> 00:37:46,400
come from the earth

972
00:37:51,589 --> 00:37:49,040
itself you can literally just pick it

973
00:37:53,910 --> 00:37:51,599
out anywhere where you know you have um

974
00:37:55,349 --> 00:37:53,920
uh the terrain for it but you know these

975
00:37:57,910 --> 00:37:55,359
things um

976
00:37:59,030 --> 00:37:57,920
can be called remedies you know in some

977
00:38:02,150 --> 00:37:59,040
cultures

978
00:38:03,589 --> 00:38:02,160
they used to use them a lot right and

979
00:38:05,510 --> 00:38:03,599
you know people have experiences with

980
00:38:07,270 --> 00:38:05,520
them so um i've uh

981
00:38:08,870 --> 00:38:07,280
i've heard of many positive and also

982
00:38:11,109 --> 00:38:08,880
negative experiences

983
00:38:12,069 --> 00:38:11,119
um with me i think it it really does

984
00:38:13,990 --> 00:38:12,079
have a lot to do

985
00:38:16,069 --> 00:38:14,000
you know this is what i think i i guess

986
00:38:19,349 --> 00:38:16,079
it has a lot to do with how your

987
00:38:20,950 --> 00:38:19,359
mind is um currently you know when

988
00:38:22,710 --> 00:38:20,960
you're gonna take them like you might

989
00:38:24,790 --> 00:38:22,720
you really have to be in the

990
00:38:26,230 --> 00:38:24,800
in the best state of mind to be able to

991
00:38:27,670 --> 00:38:26,240
do that otherwise if you're in a

992
00:38:29,190 --> 00:38:27,680
negative state of mind

993
00:38:31,510 --> 00:38:29,200
if you have something in the back of

994
00:38:34,069 --> 00:38:31,520
your let's say subconscious mind

995
00:38:35,910 --> 00:38:34,079
um i think it can definitely work um you

996
00:38:38,150 --> 00:38:35,920
know not so much

997
00:38:39,190 --> 00:38:38,160
for your benefits right because i think

998
00:38:41,510 --> 00:38:39,200
that it's just

999
00:38:42,870 --> 00:38:41,520
it enhances right whatever feeling

1000
00:38:45,109 --> 00:38:42,880
you're going through

1001
00:38:45,990 --> 00:38:45,119
again you almost want to have to have

1002
00:38:49,349 --> 00:38:46,000
the mindset

1003
00:38:50,870 --> 00:38:49,359
of i want to be on a journey

1004
00:38:52,870 --> 00:38:50,880
you know something like that in those

1005
00:38:55,670 --> 00:38:52,880
terms but you know it's funny because

1006
00:38:56,150 --> 00:38:55,680
a lot of times um before you know

1007
00:38:57,990 --> 00:38:56,160
because

1008
00:39:00,069 --> 00:38:58,000
the way it started out for me it's like

1009
00:39:03,750 --> 00:39:00,079
okay i made this decision to

1010
00:39:05,670 --> 00:39:03,760
um you know figure out okay is bashar

1011
00:39:06,950 --> 00:39:05,680
you know full of it or if is there

1012
00:39:09,829 --> 00:39:06,960
something to what he's saying

1013
00:39:10,390 --> 00:39:09,839
right and so when i was working on this

1014
00:39:12,630 --> 00:39:10,400
stage

1015
00:39:13,990 --> 00:39:12,640
that i call it my changing my beliefs

1016
00:39:16,870 --> 00:39:14,000
while i was going through everything

1017
00:39:18,630 --> 00:39:16,880
looking through friends and environments

1018
00:39:19,829 --> 00:39:18,640
and places and things i was doing just

1019
00:39:21,829 --> 00:39:19,839
simply looking at

1020
00:39:24,150 --> 00:39:21,839
all my belief systems and everything

1021
00:39:26,950 --> 00:39:24,160
that i was interacting with right

1022
00:39:27,510 --> 00:39:26,960
and so that's one thing that was very

1023
00:39:30,470 --> 00:39:27,520
strong

1024
00:39:31,990 --> 00:39:30,480
that just kind of hit me um it was like

1025
00:39:34,230 --> 00:39:32,000
everybody keeps telling me

1026
00:39:35,190 --> 00:39:34,240
you know the drugs are bad and i'm a

1027
00:39:37,190 --> 00:39:35,200
good boy so

1028
00:39:38,550 --> 00:39:37,200
i'm going to follow exactly as everyone

1029
00:39:40,550 --> 00:39:38,560
says that i should do

1030
00:39:41,990 --> 00:39:40,560
you know and then when i was going

1031
00:39:44,069 --> 00:39:42,000
through this process i was like

1032
00:39:45,109 --> 00:39:44,079
why am i believing this you know here i

1033
00:39:47,349 --> 00:39:45,119
am going to be

1034
00:39:48,470 --> 00:39:47,359
this middle-aged man i'm going to be old

1035
00:39:50,390 --> 00:39:48,480
and die eventually

1036
00:39:51,910 --> 00:39:50,400
but you know what do i have to show for

1037
00:39:54,230 --> 00:39:51,920
it laying on my

1038
00:39:56,150 --> 00:39:54,240
my deathbed going well at least i

1039
00:39:57,829 --> 00:39:56,160
followed the rules like everyone else

1040
00:40:00,950 --> 00:39:57,839
said what i should or shouldn't do

1041
00:40:03,829 --> 00:40:00,960
you know and so the thing is

1042
00:40:05,270 --> 00:40:03,839
i agree with rules you know the point is

1043
00:40:06,230 --> 00:40:05,280
this is something that would have

1044
00:40:09,030 --> 00:40:06,240
absolutely and

1045
00:40:10,470 --> 00:40:09,040
entirely only affected me physically at

1046
00:40:13,190 --> 00:40:10,480
least you know

1047
00:40:14,710 --> 00:40:13,200
and so i was like why why did i just buy

1048
00:40:17,589 --> 00:40:14,720
into that belief system and

1049
00:40:18,630 --> 00:40:17,599
it kept pushing it forward you know and

1050
00:40:21,589 --> 00:40:18,640
so

1051
00:40:23,030 --> 00:40:21,599
um anyway what was interesting is when

1052
00:40:26,790 --> 00:40:23,040
when i had the opportunity to

1053
00:40:27,510 --> 00:40:26,800
kind of then start out my first time you

1054
00:40:30,790 --> 00:40:27,520
know i went to

1055
00:40:33,270 --> 00:40:30,800
up to my friend and you know was kind of

1056
00:40:35,270 --> 00:40:33,280
you know always do everyone always knows

1057
00:40:36,870 --> 00:40:35,280
that one guy that you can go to he's got

1058
00:40:39,190 --> 00:40:36,880
everything you want you know

1059
00:40:40,630 --> 00:40:39,200
and um so i was talking to him and he's

1060
00:40:43,510 --> 00:40:40,640
like okay well he'd try

1061
00:40:44,309 --> 00:40:43,520
you know here's this um you know lsd and

1062
00:40:46,230 --> 00:40:44,319
he's like

1063
00:40:47,910 --> 00:40:46,240
you know he was telling me these things

1064
00:40:51,109 --> 00:40:47,920
about don't

1065
00:40:52,470 --> 00:40:51,119
um do anything you love while you're on

1066
00:40:54,550 --> 00:40:52,480
it i was like why

1067
00:40:56,309 --> 00:40:54,560
you know he said because if you eat

1068
00:40:59,109 --> 00:40:56,319
something you love it's gonna taste

1069
00:41:01,270 --> 00:40:59,119
so good that you know when you eat it

1070
00:41:03,430 --> 00:41:01,280
again it's not gonna taste the same

1071
00:41:05,109 --> 00:41:03,440
i was like okay it's like if you love

1072
00:41:06,230 --> 00:41:05,119
doing something don't do it because it's

1073
00:41:07,910 --> 00:41:06,240
going to be so great

1074
00:41:09,510 --> 00:41:07,920
because then when you're down from it

1075
00:41:10,150 --> 00:41:09,520
you know you just kept talking about

1076
00:41:13,190 --> 00:41:10,160
these very

1077
00:41:14,150 --> 00:41:13,200
literal steps right and so i'm kind of

1078
00:41:16,069 --> 00:41:14,160
like thinking

1079
00:41:17,589 --> 00:41:16,079
okay well you know i'm going to feel

1080
00:41:19,270 --> 00:41:17,599
funny and and and

1081
00:41:20,710 --> 00:41:19,280
things are going to be accentuated and

1082
00:41:23,670 --> 00:41:20,720
all this other stuff

1083
00:41:25,750 --> 00:41:23,680
boy was i wrong you know because when

1084
00:41:27,349 --> 00:41:25,760
when i considered my very first trip

1085
00:41:29,430 --> 00:41:27,359
it's like when that happened you know it

1086
00:41:30,790 --> 00:41:29,440
was literally like the universe said sit

1087
00:41:33,190 --> 00:41:30,800
down i'm going to show you

1088
00:41:33,990 --> 00:41:33,200
what how things really work and that's

1089
00:41:36,550 --> 00:41:34,000
when i realized

1090
00:41:38,550 --> 00:41:36,560
that this wasn't just an accident i was

1091
00:41:40,230 --> 00:41:38,560
meant to start this out and there was a

1092
00:41:41,670 --> 00:41:40,240
specific beginning and ending to this

1093
00:41:43,510 --> 00:41:41,680
that's why i keep referring to the

1094
00:41:45,990 --> 00:41:43,520
seven times seven times seven times

1095
00:41:47,990 --> 00:41:46,000
because i didn't go beyond those seven

1096
00:41:49,750 --> 00:41:48,000
during my those different lessons but

1097
00:41:51,910 --> 00:41:49,760
what was interesting is that

1098
00:41:52,790 --> 00:41:51,920
each one of these whether it would be

1099
00:41:57,109 --> 00:41:52,800
mushrooms

1100
00:42:00,870 --> 00:41:57,119
lsd a weed um

1101
00:42:02,150 --> 00:42:00,880
dmt um and others i can't remember right

1102
00:42:04,309 --> 00:42:02,160
now

1103
00:42:05,270 --> 00:42:04,319
each one of them you can achieve

1104
00:42:07,109 --> 00:42:05,280
naturally

1105
00:42:08,390 --> 00:42:07,119
but it wasn't clear to me before that it

1106
00:42:10,870 --> 00:42:08,400
was only once i went

1107
00:42:11,670 --> 00:42:10,880
there and realized oh this is what you

1108
00:42:14,069 --> 00:42:11,680
have to do to

1109
00:42:15,430 --> 00:42:14,079
get to this state and understand it it

1110
00:42:18,710 --> 00:42:15,440
made perfect sense

1111
00:42:19,430 --> 00:42:18,720
but you know that's what was stuck with

1112
00:42:24,069 --> 00:42:19,440
me it was

1113
00:42:24,710 --> 00:42:24,079
gonna feel funny or or you're just gonna

1114
00:42:26,390 --> 00:42:24,720
feel

1115
00:42:28,230 --> 00:42:26,400
weird or laugh or whatever it was

1116
00:42:31,190 --> 00:42:28,240
literal lessons that i would

1117
00:42:32,950 --> 00:42:31,200
need months after each trip to dissect

1118
00:42:35,030 --> 00:42:32,960
and realize like oh

1119
00:42:37,349 --> 00:42:35,040
this is what the big meg was about this

1120
00:42:38,309 --> 00:42:37,359
is how time works you know oh this is

1121
00:42:40,390 --> 00:42:38,319
what consciousness

1122
00:42:41,510 --> 00:42:40,400
is and i'm part of it and all of this

1123
00:42:43,109 --> 00:42:41,520
you know and it's just

1124
00:42:45,349 --> 00:42:43,119
basically i mean you couldn't help

1125
00:42:46,550 --> 00:42:45,359
yourself but just go through this whole

1126
00:42:48,790 --> 00:42:46,560
process of just

1127
00:42:50,230 --> 00:42:48,800
self-reflection and you couldn't you

1128
00:42:52,230 --> 00:42:50,240
know it wasn't i'd never

1129
00:42:53,270 --> 00:42:52,240
ever looked at it as like oh let's just

1130
00:42:55,589 --> 00:42:53,280
do it for fun

1131
00:42:57,430 --> 00:42:55,599
because every time where i was taken

1132
00:43:00,390 --> 00:42:57,440
every time something happened you know

1133
00:43:02,309 --> 00:43:00,400
it would change my life it's almost like

1134
00:43:04,870 --> 00:43:02,319
the whole core of my being

1135
00:43:05,829 --> 00:43:04,880
and so i'd never took it lightly you

1136
00:43:07,670 --> 00:43:05,839
know where

1137
00:43:09,750 --> 00:43:07,680
where i almost envied my friends that

1138
00:43:10,150 --> 00:43:09,760
could just you know i like i can't smoke

1139
00:43:14,550 --> 00:43:10,160
weed

1140
00:43:15,589 --> 00:43:14,560
and i'm gone for hours and come back

1141
00:43:18,870 --> 00:43:15,599
with some amazing

1142
00:43:20,550 --> 00:43:18,880
information you know and so i never took

1143
00:43:22,630 --> 00:43:20,560
it lightly to just be like

1144
00:43:23,829 --> 00:43:22,640
use it recreationally because it's just

1145
00:43:25,750 --> 00:43:23,839
not possible for me

1146
00:43:27,910 --> 00:43:25,760
you know that was after the first time i

1147
00:43:31,430 --> 00:43:27,920
learned that i left it be it that

1148
00:43:34,230 --> 00:43:31,440
you know so anyway if um if i

1149
00:43:35,670 --> 00:43:34,240
just uh with with exactly what you're

1150
00:43:38,309 --> 00:43:35,680
saying right now i have a po

1151
00:43:41,030 --> 00:43:38,319
i pulled up a quote here by alan watts

1152
00:43:43,109 --> 00:43:41,040
not sure if you know who he is yes i do

1153
00:43:44,870 --> 00:43:43,119
okay so the quote goes if you get the

1154
00:43:46,710 --> 00:43:44,880
message hang up the phone

1155
00:43:48,470 --> 00:43:46,720
for psychedelic drugs there's simply

1156
00:43:51,430 --> 00:43:48,480
instruments like microscopes

1157
00:43:52,550 --> 00:43:51,440
telescopes and telephones the biologist

1158
00:43:54,710 --> 00:43:52,560
does not sit

1159
00:43:56,710 --> 00:43:54,720
with i permanently glued to the

1160
00:43:58,150 --> 00:43:56,720
microscope he goes away and works on

1161
00:44:00,309 --> 00:43:58,160
what he has seen

1162
00:44:02,230 --> 00:44:00,319
so that that like that ties in i think

1163
00:44:03,510 --> 00:44:02,240
from my perspective with everything that

1164
00:44:05,750 --> 00:44:03,520
you're saying that sometimes

1165
00:44:06,790 --> 00:44:05,760
you know if we open our doors or you

1166
00:44:09,510 --> 00:44:06,800
know um

1167
00:44:11,270 --> 00:44:09,520
our possibilities to these experiences

1168
00:44:12,470 --> 00:44:11,280
that a lot of people are saying you know

1169
00:44:14,870 --> 00:44:12,480
you shouldn't do this you shouldn't do

1170
00:44:18,309 --> 00:44:14,880
that we only limit ourselves right

1171
00:44:20,309 --> 00:44:18,319
but the moment we actually start to um

1172
00:44:22,069 --> 00:44:20,319
to experience these things of oneness

1173
00:44:24,550 --> 00:44:22,079
for example this is what i personally

1174
00:44:25,430 --> 00:44:24,560
experienced through the the mushroom the

1175
00:44:27,510 --> 00:44:25,440
mushrooms

1176
00:44:28,790 --> 00:44:27,520
right i felt like i was you know in in

1177
00:44:29,910 --> 00:44:28,800
connection with everything that

1178
00:44:32,390 --> 00:44:29,920
everything was like

1179
00:44:33,670 --> 00:44:32,400
alive and just like waving and doing the

1180
00:44:35,910 --> 00:44:33,680
spiral dance

1181
00:44:37,270 --> 00:44:35,920
you know i understood that i was like a

1182
00:44:40,470 --> 00:44:37,280
part of all of this

1183
00:44:42,870 --> 00:44:40,480
like i understood that living beings uh

1184
00:44:44,470 --> 00:44:42,880
it includes you know like trees it

1185
00:44:46,230 --> 00:44:44,480
includes anything that lives

1186
00:44:48,470 --> 00:44:46,240
you know through the same means that we

1187
00:44:50,790 --> 00:44:48,480
do right like light and water

1188
00:44:52,150 --> 00:44:50,800
yeah well i mean what's interesting and

1189
00:44:53,750 --> 00:44:52,160
i don't know if if you had these

1190
00:44:56,309 --> 00:44:53,760
experiences too you know

1191
00:44:58,150 --> 00:44:56,319
there is nothing else but consciousness

1192
00:45:00,069 --> 00:44:58,160
so everything you're interacting with

1193
00:45:02,470 --> 00:45:00,079
it had to be created out of

1194
00:45:04,550 --> 00:45:02,480
consciousness therefore everything else

1195
00:45:06,150 --> 00:45:04,560
is conscious but we played these

1196
00:45:09,030 --> 00:45:06,160
different games to where

1197
00:45:10,150 --> 00:45:09,040
you know um you're going to be you and

1198
00:45:11,990 --> 00:45:10,160
i'm going to be me

1199
00:45:13,589 --> 00:45:12,000
and this table is going to be the table

1200
00:45:15,270 --> 00:45:13,599
you know and everything else around it

1201
00:45:16,710 --> 00:45:15,280
and so i'm just going to interact

1202
00:45:18,950 --> 00:45:16,720
basically you're interacting with

1203
00:45:20,950 --> 00:45:18,960
yourself all the time but playing this

1204
00:45:24,950 --> 00:45:20,960
game that you don't remember

1205
00:45:27,430 --> 00:45:24,960
you know and uh that's that's the basic

1206
00:45:28,790 --> 00:45:27,440
real quick to the point premise of

1207
00:45:31,270 --> 00:45:28,800
what's really going on

1208
00:45:32,550 --> 00:45:31,280
you know um i don't i don't know if you

1209
00:45:34,150 --> 00:45:32,560
ever got to that

1210
00:45:36,390 --> 00:45:34,160
stage or understanding or if you have

1211
00:45:39,349 --> 00:45:36,400
anything to say about that

1212
00:45:40,230 --> 00:45:39,359
yeah 100 um it's the stage of

1213
00:45:42,150 --> 00:45:40,240
remembering

1214
00:45:43,510 --> 00:45:42,160
sorry forgetting and remembrance yeah i

1215
00:45:47,430 --> 00:45:43,520
think this is what

1216
00:45:50,950 --> 00:45:47,440
um what i've gotten uh to in terms of

1217
00:45:51,829 --> 00:45:50,960
my uh spirituality or you know my belief

1218
00:45:54,950 --> 00:45:51,839
system

1219
00:45:56,790 --> 00:45:54,960
um is is that we have forgotten that

1220
00:45:58,390 --> 00:45:56,800
where we come from or what we are

1221
00:46:00,230 --> 00:45:58,400
actually made up of

1222
00:46:02,309 --> 00:46:00,240
so i can you know i can give you an

1223
00:46:03,030 --> 00:46:02,319
example you know there's a rock and then

1224
00:46:05,190 --> 00:46:03,040
there's me

1225
00:46:06,630 --> 00:46:05,200
we're both made out of the same material

1226
00:46:08,470 --> 00:46:06,640
elements however

1227
00:46:09,829 --> 00:46:08,480
you know the rock is not conscious but

1228
00:46:13,109 --> 00:46:09,839
i'm conscious

1229
00:46:16,150 --> 00:46:13,119
so it just i've gotten to a point where

1230
00:46:18,390 --> 00:46:16,160
i've i've now seen living entities

1231
00:46:19,750 --> 00:46:18,400
for what they truly are and that's like

1232
00:46:23,109 --> 00:46:19,760
spirit form

1233
00:46:25,109 --> 00:46:23,119
um not you know the science itself um

1234
00:46:27,349 --> 00:46:25,119
can only speak up to a certain point but

1235
00:46:29,670 --> 00:46:27,359
they don't dare to go into the

1236
00:46:31,030 --> 00:46:29,680
um i don't know if i want to call it

1237
00:46:33,430 --> 00:46:31,040
metaphysics but it's like

1238
00:46:34,390 --> 00:46:33,440
like the other realm or the anti-matter

1239
00:46:37,670 --> 00:46:34,400
you know

1240
00:46:38,230 --> 00:46:37,680
they do um talk about it very briefly i

1241
00:46:39,670 --> 00:46:38,240
think uh

1242
00:46:41,510 --> 00:46:39,680
science has also said something about

1243
00:46:43,510 --> 00:46:41,520
anti-matter or dark

1244
00:46:44,710 --> 00:46:43,520
matter or something like that but uh

1245
00:46:47,190 --> 00:46:44,720
they haven't

1246
00:46:48,069 --> 00:46:47,200
we haven't as as a as a whole we haven't

1247
00:46:51,109 --> 00:46:48,079
gotten much

1248
00:46:53,670 --> 00:46:51,119
um studies

1249
00:46:56,309 --> 00:46:53,680
uh from that other realm but i do feel

1250
00:46:59,270 --> 00:46:56,319
like you know there is a spirit

1251
00:46:59,829 --> 00:46:59,280
side to um to where we are we're at

1252
00:47:02,470 --> 00:46:59,839
right

1253
00:47:03,670 --> 00:47:02,480
we may see material things but you know

1254
00:47:05,750 --> 00:47:03,680
we're not the same as

1255
00:47:07,270 --> 00:47:05,760
those material things we have these

1256
00:47:09,270 --> 00:47:07,280
material bodies but that doesn't mean

1257
00:47:09,990 --> 00:47:09,280
that we are just chemicals interacting

1258
00:47:11,910 --> 00:47:10,000
with each other we

1259
00:47:13,510 --> 00:47:11,920
have something more than just the rock

1260
00:47:15,270 --> 00:47:13,520
we have the consciousness you know we

1261
00:47:17,349 --> 00:47:15,280
have the intelligence we have feelings

1262
00:47:20,549 --> 00:47:17,359
we have all these other things

1263
00:47:21,990 --> 00:47:20,559
so um yeah right well

1264
00:47:24,390 --> 00:47:22,000
that's why i was asking i don't know if

1265
00:47:26,150 --> 00:47:24,400
you had you know if you got

1266
00:47:27,430 --> 00:47:26,160
to go that deep to to get that

1267
00:47:29,910 --> 00:47:27,440
experience too but

1268
00:47:31,589 --> 00:47:29,920
everything including i mean i'm being

1269
00:47:34,630 --> 00:47:31,599
serious when i say including

1270
00:47:38,230 --> 00:47:34,640
things like inanimate objects you know

1271
00:47:39,589 --> 00:47:38,240
there because there's nothing outside of

1272
00:47:43,030 --> 00:47:39,599
this consciousness

1273
00:47:45,030 --> 00:47:43,040
right and it there's no um

1274
00:47:46,870 --> 00:47:45,040
something else outside of it it just

1275
00:47:49,030 --> 00:47:46,880
knows itself as this energy

1276
00:47:50,790 --> 00:47:49,040
now that energy vibrating in different

1277
00:47:53,349 --> 00:47:50,800
ways creates these things that we

1278
00:47:55,750 --> 00:47:53,359
recognize as physical

1279
00:47:57,190 --> 00:47:55,760
you know but it is still created out of

1280
00:47:59,910 --> 00:47:57,200
it nonetheless

1281
00:48:00,309 --> 00:47:59,920
you know and um that is you know and

1282
00:48:02,549 --> 00:48:00,319
it's

1283
00:48:03,670 --> 00:48:02,559
only on on a certain like i don't know

1284
00:48:06,710 --> 00:48:03,680
if you if you've

1285
00:48:08,870 --> 00:48:06,720
ever listened to some of the other um

1286
00:48:10,309 --> 00:48:08,880
um like coast to coast that was years

1287
00:48:12,470 --> 00:48:10,319
ago some you know

1288
00:48:13,430 --> 00:48:12,480
this person was talking about how well

1289
00:48:14,790 --> 00:48:13,440
they understood

1290
00:48:16,470 --> 00:48:14,800
you know technology and you know they

1291
00:48:17,510 --> 00:48:16,480
were working with airplanes and all this

1292
00:48:19,349 --> 00:48:17,520
other stuff

1293
00:48:21,589 --> 00:48:19,359
and i don't know who the host was

1294
00:48:23,270 --> 00:48:21,599
whether it was george nori or or

1295
00:48:25,030 --> 00:48:23,280
art bell but they asked them

1296
00:48:26,790 --> 00:48:25,040
specifically he said something like

1297
00:48:28,710 --> 00:48:26,800
how do you know to fix this plane or

1298
00:48:31,270 --> 00:48:28,720
something like that he said

1299
00:48:32,309 --> 00:48:31,280
the plane tells me like i can tell you

1300
00:48:34,950 --> 00:48:32,319
know it tells me

1301
00:48:36,150 --> 00:48:34,960
this is off with me this circuit here

1302
00:48:38,950 --> 00:48:36,160
and and so on

1303
00:48:40,069 --> 00:48:38,960
you know and and to him that connection

1304
00:48:42,790 --> 00:48:40,079
that he had

1305
00:48:44,710 --> 00:48:42,800
you know it worked you know and so

1306
00:48:47,270 --> 00:48:44,720
whether you want to call it crazy or not

1307
00:48:48,390 --> 00:48:47,280
you know he it allowed him to do his job

1308
00:48:50,230 --> 00:48:48,400
you know which was

1309
00:48:51,990 --> 00:48:50,240
you know which then obviously years

1310
00:48:54,069 --> 00:48:52,000
years later with my own experience i

1311
00:48:56,390 --> 00:48:54,079
finally understood what he meant

1312
00:48:58,069 --> 00:48:56,400
because anyone i guess uh for lack of a

1313
00:48:59,510 --> 00:48:58,079
better word ignore me

1314
00:49:01,750 --> 00:48:59,520
you know but i don't know if that's

1315
00:49:03,829 --> 00:49:01,760
supposed to be a condescending word but

1316
00:49:04,630 --> 00:49:03,839
it just means to encompass everyone

1317
00:49:06,710 --> 00:49:04,640
that's

1318
00:49:08,390 --> 00:49:06,720
that is not into these things you know

1319
00:49:10,470 --> 00:49:08,400
into this what we are

1320
00:49:11,510 --> 00:49:10,480
uh to them they wouldn't understand it

1321
00:49:13,349 --> 00:49:11,520
because they

1322
00:49:15,349 --> 00:49:13,359
wouldn't see the train of thought they

1323
00:49:17,270 --> 00:49:15,359
wouldn't see they wouldn't understand

1324
00:49:19,510 --> 00:49:17,280
like how do you connect

1325
00:49:20,870 --> 00:49:19,520
consciousness with the table you know

1326
00:49:21,750 --> 00:49:20,880
they're like i don't get it i don't

1327
00:49:23,270 --> 00:49:21,760
understand

1328
00:49:25,670 --> 00:49:23,280
you know and they'll only look at it in

1329
00:49:27,750 --> 00:49:25,680
those terms

1330
00:49:29,750 --> 00:49:27,760
yeah if we want to i mean speak about

1331
00:49:32,150 --> 00:49:29,760
something so let's say for

1332
00:49:33,430 --> 00:49:32,160
the first person that thought about you

1333
00:49:36,230 --> 00:49:33,440
know an airplane

1334
00:49:37,349 --> 00:49:36,240
uh like like we're talking way back and

1335
00:49:40,150 --> 00:49:37,359
and what the

1336
00:49:41,670 --> 00:49:40,160
the the thoughts that came along in

1337
00:49:44,069 --> 00:49:41,680
actually building a plane

1338
00:49:45,510 --> 00:49:44,079
you know i can only imagine you know the

1339
00:49:48,790 --> 00:49:45,520
the person might have seen

1340
00:49:51,750 --> 00:49:48,800
you know a a bird fly and he could have

1341
00:49:54,150 --> 00:49:51,760
gotten this idea but the way that he

1342
00:49:55,430 --> 00:49:54,160
mechanically went through the process of

1343
00:49:57,510 --> 00:49:55,440
putting things together

1344
00:50:00,150 --> 00:49:57,520
it's just you know to me is

1345
00:50:01,510 --> 00:50:00,160
mind-boggling right um i don't

1346
00:50:03,510 --> 00:50:01,520
i don't know that's like something to

1347
00:50:05,510 --> 00:50:03,520
play around with right like the idea of

1348
00:50:07,030 --> 00:50:05,520
where he has come from well in the

1349
00:50:09,430 --> 00:50:07,040
united states um

1350
00:50:10,710 --> 00:50:09,440
everyone probably knows it was well from

1351
00:50:13,109 --> 00:50:10,720
the united states

1352
00:50:14,790 --> 00:50:13,119
story there a lot of people here would

1353
00:50:15,589 --> 00:50:14,800
say that it was the wright brothers they

1354
00:50:17,829 --> 00:50:15,599
used to have a

1355
00:50:19,190 --> 00:50:17,839
used to own a bike shop and i forgot

1356
00:50:20,790 --> 00:50:19,200
exactly how they

1357
00:50:22,790 --> 00:50:20,800
you know got to that what the

1358
00:50:24,710 --> 00:50:22,800
inspiration behind that was but

1359
00:50:27,109 --> 00:50:24,720
they were kind of the first ones you

1360
00:50:28,390 --> 00:50:27,119
know to start meddling with that using

1361
00:50:31,510 --> 00:50:28,400
bike parts to

1362
00:50:34,549 --> 00:50:31,520
create different shapes and try to get

1363
00:50:36,470 --> 00:50:34,559
you know make a make a plane to

1364
00:50:37,670 --> 00:50:36,480
to where they can fly through the air

1365
00:50:39,750 --> 00:50:37,680
now of course if you're

1366
00:50:42,470 --> 00:50:39,760
talking to people from from south

1367
00:50:44,630 --> 00:50:42,480
america i believe it was um

1368
00:50:47,349 --> 00:50:44,640
either individual two individuals that

1369
00:50:50,390 --> 00:50:47,359
have individuals that are from brazil

1370
00:50:53,990 --> 00:50:50,400
and that was pretty interesting because

1371
00:50:57,510 --> 00:50:54,000
of the the um

1372
00:50:58,790 --> 00:50:57,520
the olympics in in brazil when they had

1373
00:51:00,549 --> 00:50:58,800
those you know how they always have

1374
00:51:02,790 --> 00:51:00,559
these huge intros and

1375
00:51:04,390 --> 00:51:02,800
ever you know there's this huge show

1376
00:51:07,670 --> 00:51:04,400
that they do and whatnot

1377
00:51:09,270 --> 00:51:07,680
they actually um showed an airplane

1378
00:51:12,710 --> 00:51:09,280
flying with this individual

1379
00:51:15,109 --> 00:51:12,720
in it and um i remember the nbc

1380
00:51:16,790 --> 00:51:15,119
moderator said well they believed this

1381
00:51:17,750 --> 00:51:16,800
person blah blah blah first cemented

1382
00:51:19,430 --> 00:51:17,760
airplanes

1383
00:51:21,030 --> 00:51:19,440
and they kind of left it at that you

1384
00:51:23,190 --> 00:51:21,040
know and i was like oh that was

1385
00:51:25,109 --> 00:51:23,200
i never really thought i mean of course

1386
00:51:26,390 --> 00:51:25,119
i've known that other inventions came

1387
00:51:29,270 --> 00:51:26,400
from other places but

1388
00:51:31,109 --> 00:51:29,280
i always associated that only during

1389
00:51:32,069 --> 00:51:31,119
this time it was the wright brothers but

1390
00:51:33,910 --> 00:51:32,079
apparently

1391
00:51:35,990 --> 00:51:33,920
very close to each other the wright

1392
00:51:39,030 --> 00:51:36,000
brothers and this individual

1393
00:51:42,309 --> 00:51:39,040
from from brazil were developing the

1394
00:51:44,390 --> 00:51:42,319
the airplane almost at the same time

1395
00:51:46,309 --> 00:51:44,400
yeah and speaking of the wright brothers

1396
00:51:47,910 --> 00:51:46,319
i don't know if you heard about this i

1397
00:51:49,990 --> 00:51:47,920
it could be just speculation at this

1398
00:51:53,030 --> 00:51:50,000
point but um i think that in

1399
00:51:54,790 --> 00:51:53,040
the the what is it the the robot that

1400
00:51:56,870 --> 00:51:54,800
they sent to mars

1401
00:51:58,309 --> 00:51:56,880
apparently they put a clock the marsh

1402
00:52:01,030 --> 00:51:58,319
rover

1403
00:52:01,750 --> 00:52:01,040
yeah apparently to put a cloth belonging

1404
00:52:03,430 --> 00:52:01,760
to

1405
00:52:05,349 --> 00:52:03,440
one of the wright's brothers like i

1406
00:52:06,630 --> 00:52:05,359
don't know first flying craft or

1407
00:52:07,589 --> 00:52:06,640
something i don't know if someone in the

1408
00:52:10,150 --> 00:52:07,599
chat can

1409
00:52:11,990 --> 00:52:10,160
can uh verify this information but again

1410
00:52:14,309 --> 00:52:12,000
it's i think it's just speculation

1411
00:52:15,589 --> 00:52:14,319
that i heard it somewhere i'm not sure

1412
00:52:17,589 --> 00:52:15,599
if you know about this

1413
00:52:19,349 --> 00:52:17,599
no i didn't i didn't thanks for sharing

1414
00:52:20,470 --> 00:52:19,359
that i mean it's it's pretty cool if

1415
00:52:22,470 --> 00:52:20,480
that's

1416
00:52:23,990 --> 00:52:22,480
i don't i mean i guess they got a drone

1417
00:52:27,190 --> 00:52:24,000
going on there too right

1418
00:52:29,990 --> 00:52:27,200
right well i mean um i mean

1419
00:52:31,190 --> 00:52:30,000
it's kind of nice you know when when uh

1420
00:52:33,270 --> 00:52:31,200
generations later

1421
00:52:34,230 --> 00:52:33,280
different scientists pay homage to their

1422
00:52:37,270 --> 00:52:34,240
predecessors

1423
00:52:40,870 --> 00:52:37,280
in a way you know um because

1424
00:52:42,150 --> 00:52:40,880
there's always uh been this um

1425
00:52:43,670 --> 00:52:42,160
i don't want to change the subject i

1426
00:52:46,710 --> 00:52:43,680
just won't mention this quickly because

1427
00:52:49,829 --> 00:52:46,720
it i believe it will take us off subject

1428
00:52:50,549 --> 00:52:49,839
like for example the the rainbow colored

1429
00:52:53,030 --> 00:52:50,559
apple

1430
00:52:54,230 --> 00:52:53,040
have half bitten out of the original

1431
00:52:57,430 --> 00:52:54,240
apple logo from

1432
00:52:57,910 --> 00:52:57,440
apple computers you know well a lot of

1433
00:53:00,309 --> 00:52:57,920
have

1434
00:53:01,349 --> 00:53:00,319
you know if you've read anything about

1435
00:53:04,309 --> 00:53:01,359
alan turing

1436
00:53:05,030 --> 00:53:04,319
you know um he was gay at you know at

1437
00:53:08,710 --> 00:53:05,040
that time

1438
00:53:11,589 --> 00:53:08,720
and he um in england it was illegal

1439
00:53:12,150 --> 00:53:11,599
and so they um i guess put him with some

1440
00:53:15,190 --> 00:53:12,160
kind of

1441
00:53:16,870 --> 00:53:15,200
uh inhibiting drugs that basically it

1442
00:53:17,750 --> 00:53:16,880
chemically castrates you you know which

1443
00:53:21,349 --> 00:53:17,760
is horrible and

1444
00:53:23,270 --> 00:53:21,359
on its own but what really got to him is

1445
00:53:26,630 --> 00:53:23,280
that the way he thought

1446
00:53:28,790 --> 00:53:26,640
it was not it was hindered and he just

1447
00:53:31,670 --> 00:53:28,800
couldn't live with himself any longer

1448
00:53:33,750 --> 00:53:31,680
being that you know inhibited from being

1449
00:53:36,390 --> 00:53:33,760
able to do the work that he was doing

1450
00:53:37,670 --> 00:53:36,400
and so basically um the in one of the

1451
00:53:40,069 --> 00:53:37,680
books is stated that

1452
00:53:41,670 --> 00:53:40,079
because his his mom was very religious

1453
00:53:42,870 --> 00:53:41,680
and catholic and if you kill yourself

1454
00:53:45,990 --> 00:53:42,880
you go to

1455
00:53:48,390 --> 00:53:46,000
want that

1456
00:53:49,910 --> 00:53:48,400
on her so he injected an apple with

1457
00:53:51,589 --> 00:53:49,920
cyanide and ate it

1458
00:53:53,109 --> 00:53:51,599
you know so that it looked like it was

1459
00:53:55,190 --> 00:53:53,119
food poisoning so that she

1460
00:53:56,309 --> 00:53:55,200
doesn't think that he's in hell you know

1461
00:53:58,470 --> 00:53:56,319
anyway and so then

1462
00:54:00,230 --> 00:53:58,480
then you see the story you know the

1463
00:54:01,270 --> 00:54:00,240
story of alan turing and then you see

1464
00:54:03,190 --> 00:54:01,280
apple doing that

1465
00:54:05,190 --> 00:54:03,200
and then them kind of from the beginning

1466
00:54:06,470 --> 00:54:05,200
claiming no no no that's not what it was

1467
00:54:09,670 --> 00:54:06,480
about at all

1468
00:54:11,270 --> 00:54:09,680
it's like really you know what i mean

1469
00:54:13,510 --> 00:54:11,280
it's one of those things i mean at least

1470
00:54:15,030 --> 00:54:13,520
if if nasa put the cloth in there and

1471
00:54:15,990 --> 00:54:15,040
they're being obvious about it that's

1472
00:54:19,030 --> 00:54:16,000
nice but

1473
00:54:21,109 --> 00:54:19,040
um that's one of those little references

1474
00:54:22,549 --> 00:54:21,119
about about apple computers too where

1475
00:54:24,069 --> 00:54:22,559
they're i believe they were trying to

1476
00:54:27,349 --> 00:54:24,079
pay homage but why they don't want to

1477
00:54:31,349 --> 00:54:30,790
interesting um before you were speaking

1478
00:54:34,069 --> 00:54:31,359
on this

1479
00:54:36,470 --> 00:54:34,079
um i was gonna ask you just like going

1480
00:54:38,069 --> 00:54:36,480
back to ufo community uh have you heard

1481
00:54:41,190 --> 00:54:38,079
about the the

1482
00:54:43,510 --> 00:54:41,200
channel uh what is it called uh

1483
00:54:46,150 --> 00:54:43,520
shoot now it's getting out of my head uh

1484
00:54:50,630 --> 00:54:48,150
uh let me look it up here sorry secure

1485
00:54:51,349 --> 00:54:50,640
team secure team 10 or something yes

1486
00:54:54,710 --> 00:54:51,359
i've heard of

1487
00:54:56,710 --> 00:54:54,720
yeah yeah so i i like i

1488
00:54:58,789 --> 00:54:56,720
subscribe to them um i'm not trying to

1489
00:55:00,470 --> 00:54:58,799
like shame or sorry uh plug their

1490
00:55:01,750 --> 00:55:00,480
channel in like oh no please do i mean

1491
00:55:03,829 --> 00:55:01,760
why not

1492
00:55:05,109 --> 00:55:03,839
but i think like there's a lot of um

1493
00:55:08,390 --> 00:55:05,119
content that he

1494
00:55:10,710 --> 00:55:08,400
uh this the creator of that channel

1495
00:55:12,549 --> 00:55:10,720
um he compiled a bunch of videos you

1496
00:55:13,510 --> 00:55:12,559
know throughout the years and uh you

1497
00:55:15,030 --> 00:55:13,520
know for

1498
00:55:18,390 --> 00:55:15,040
the chat here just for the sake of

1499
00:55:20,390 --> 00:55:18,400
people you know if they want to get some

1500
00:55:22,950 --> 00:55:20,400
video sightings and stuff like that i

1501
00:55:26,150 --> 00:55:22,960
think that channel has a lot of uh

1502
00:55:27,910 --> 00:55:26,160
a lot of cool videos i would say um

1503
00:55:30,390 --> 00:55:27,920
you know with nowadays with uh

1504
00:55:31,750 --> 00:55:30,400
technology cgi and all these things

1505
00:55:34,309 --> 00:55:31,760
a lot of things you know you can

1506
00:55:34,630 --> 00:55:34,319
question but um i i take everything with

1507
00:55:35,910 --> 00:55:34,640
the

1508
00:55:38,150 --> 00:55:35,920
with a grain of salt you know i don't

1509
00:55:39,910 --> 00:55:38,160
say everything is you know for sure

1510
00:55:41,829 --> 00:55:39,920
you know the real deal but there's

1511
00:55:42,470 --> 00:55:41,839
definitely some footage that i'm like

1512
00:55:45,670 --> 00:55:42,480
wow i

1513
00:55:47,670 --> 00:55:45,680
you know interesting right right

1514
00:55:49,670 --> 00:55:47,680
well no i mean i just for anyone

1515
00:55:52,309 --> 00:55:49,680
watching this and even just

1516
00:55:52,710 --> 00:55:52,319
to give feedback to you i mean if

1517
00:55:54,710 --> 00:55:52,720
there's

1518
00:55:56,390 --> 00:55:54,720
channels out there that you know some

1519
00:55:57,109 --> 00:55:56,400
find interesting please do plug them i

1520
00:55:58,950 --> 00:55:57,119
mean i

1521
00:56:01,190 --> 00:55:58,960
honestly don't care because for one i

1522
00:56:03,430 --> 00:56:01,200
don't have a monopoly on ufos

1523
00:56:05,430 --> 00:56:03,440
and what i do is a very specific way

1524
00:56:07,430 --> 00:56:05,440
it's mainly based on my own experiences

1525
00:56:08,470 --> 00:56:07,440
and how i wanted to go about doing what

1526
00:56:11,270 --> 00:56:08,480
i do

1527
00:56:11,910 --> 00:56:11,280
and um i should take that back it's more

1528
00:56:14,950 --> 00:56:11,920
about

1529
00:56:19,510 --> 00:56:14,960
how i was downloaded to do what i do

1530
00:56:21,589 --> 00:56:19,520
you know um and so uh you know it's not

1531
00:56:22,630 --> 00:56:21,599
you know i know i don't know why anyone

1532
00:56:25,829 --> 00:56:22,640
would ever

1533
00:56:27,589 --> 00:56:25,839
not want to um i guess if you are in the

1534
00:56:28,630 --> 00:56:27,599
interest of helping people out and

1535
00:56:31,030 --> 00:56:28,640
educate them

1536
00:56:33,190 --> 00:56:31,040
then you know you you ought to

1537
00:56:34,789 --> 00:56:33,200
understand you're not the only educator

1538
00:56:37,270 --> 00:56:34,799
there's many people out there so it's

1539
00:56:37,990 --> 00:56:37,280
like so to kind of claim a monopoly on

1540
00:56:39,430 --> 00:56:38,000
certain things

1541
00:56:41,349 --> 00:56:39,440
that i think i don't know it's just

1542
00:56:43,910 --> 00:56:41,359
silly to me but yeah so

1543
00:56:44,390 --> 00:56:43,920
for anyone watching don't ever hesitate

1544
00:56:46,870 --> 00:56:44,400
to just

1545
00:56:47,589 --> 00:56:46,880
you know you know say something out

1546
00:56:49,750 --> 00:56:47,599
there because

1547
00:56:50,789 --> 00:56:49,760
if what you can't find here you might

1548
00:56:53,670 --> 00:56:50,799
find it there

1549
00:56:54,069 --> 00:56:53,680
you know and so that's always welcome

1550
00:56:56,870 --> 00:56:54,079
yeah

1551
00:56:58,789 --> 00:56:56,880
so and i i i stumble upon your channel

1552
00:57:01,510 --> 00:56:58,799
uh quite a few years ago i just

1553
00:57:02,630 --> 00:57:01,520
i started recently i think you you were

1554
00:57:05,829 --> 00:57:02,640
off for like a bit

1555
00:57:07,349 --> 00:57:05,839
and then came back um so

1556
00:57:09,270 --> 00:57:07,359
i've never seen you do like one of these

1557
00:57:12,470 --> 00:57:09,280
live shows before so

1558
00:57:15,750 --> 00:57:12,480
really no this all started uh just

1559
00:57:17,750 --> 00:57:15,760
literally a month ago because um um

1560
00:57:19,190 --> 00:57:17,760
i had you know i've been doing these

1561
00:57:22,230 --> 00:57:19,200
interviews in person

1562
00:57:24,150 --> 00:57:22,240
and uh um just filming them in the way

1563
00:57:26,390 --> 00:57:24,160
you've seen them with just uh

1564
00:57:28,789 --> 00:57:26,400
whatever go to a hotel room set up the

1565
00:57:31,030 --> 00:57:28,799
the background get set up the lighting

1566
00:57:33,349 --> 00:57:31,040
and then um before i even get there i

1567
00:57:34,710 --> 00:57:33,359
already have several interviews lined up

1568
00:57:36,789 --> 00:57:34,720
because i didn't want to get there and

1569
00:57:38,309 --> 00:57:36,799
then maybe hope i could get somebody

1570
00:57:40,710 --> 00:57:38,319
you know so anyway so i've been doing

1571
00:57:43,990 --> 00:57:40,720
that for quite quite a bit and then

1572
00:57:45,349 --> 00:57:44,000
um i was thinking well i always go to

1573
00:57:48,230 --> 00:57:45,359
these different conferences

1574
00:57:49,589 --> 00:57:48,240
to to um i guess get the interviews and

1575
00:57:52,470 --> 00:57:49,599
set up in hotel rooms

1576
00:57:53,430 --> 00:57:52,480
it's become very tedious i mean some of

1577
00:57:54,950 --> 00:57:53,440
these conferences

1578
00:57:57,190 --> 00:57:54,960
you know it's like they don't

1579
00:57:57,990 --> 00:57:57,200
necessarily have all the space for media

1580
00:58:00,549 --> 00:57:58,000
so like

1581
00:58:02,390 --> 00:58:00,559
few interviews uh i'm i'm glad nobody

1582
00:58:03,270 --> 00:58:02,400
was able to tell i literally did him in

1583
00:58:06,150 --> 00:58:03,280
a pantry

1584
00:58:08,150 --> 00:58:06,160
closet you know and it was just you know

1585
00:58:09,430 --> 00:58:08,160
there were cants and all of that stuff

1586
00:58:11,589 --> 00:58:09,440
that was stored for this

1587
00:58:13,270 --> 00:58:11,599
place that they were using as a pantry

1588
00:58:14,950 --> 00:58:13,280
and i just put the backdrop in there

1589
00:58:17,030 --> 00:58:14,960
work the lighting and just

1590
00:58:18,069 --> 00:58:17,040
you know let the interview turn out the

1591
00:58:20,789 --> 00:58:18,079
way it did

1592
00:58:21,990 --> 00:58:20,799
you know but it becomes a bit tedious

1593
00:58:24,710 --> 00:58:22,000
having to constantly

1594
00:58:25,190 --> 00:58:24,720
um you know not having a secure way to

1595
00:58:26,789 --> 00:58:25,200
deal

1596
00:58:28,710 --> 00:58:26,799
you know to be able to do an interview

1597
00:58:29,270 --> 00:58:28,720
so i thought well why not see if i can

1598
00:58:32,390 --> 00:58:29,280
set up

1599
00:58:36,789 --> 00:58:32,400
lecture series

1600
00:58:37,510 --> 00:58:36,799
which we did two years ago i think 2019

1601
00:58:40,630 --> 00:58:37,520
or so

1602
00:58:42,789 --> 00:58:40,640
late 2019. well anyway and that was

1603
00:58:44,789 --> 00:58:42,799
going in such a difficult way because

1604
00:58:45,990 --> 00:58:44,799
i wanted to set up the the lecture

1605
00:58:49,030 --> 00:58:46,000
series to where

1606
00:58:52,069 --> 00:58:49,040
i can bring people in um stream

1607
00:58:53,990 --> 00:58:52,079
the the lectures and then have the the

1608
00:58:55,910 --> 00:58:54,000
lectures individually available to be

1609
00:58:56,950 --> 00:58:55,920
watched and i would get some interviews

1610
00:58:58,630 --> 00:58:56,960
out of them too

1611
00:59:00,390 --> 00:58:58,640
so then that way there's constantly

1612
00:59:02,950 --> 00:59:00,400
content just going out there

1613
00:59:03,990 --> 00:59:02,960
well everything i was trying to do with

1614
00:59:06,309 --> 00:59:04,000
that the conference

1615
00:59:07,030 --> 00:59:06,319
turned out great but not to the point

1616
00:59:08,789 --> 00:59:07,040
where it could

1617
00:59:10,549 --> 00:59:08,799
sustain itself to do another one you

1618
00:59:11,190 --> 00:59:10,559
know just basically it the turnout

1619
00:59:12,950 --> 00:59:11,200
wasn't

1620
00:59:15,030 --> 00:59:12,960
that great although everyone loved it

1621
00:59:15,270 --> 00:59:15,040
being there because i set the conference

1622
00:59:17,349 --> 00:59:15,280
up

1623
00:59:19,349 --> 00:59:17,359
exactly how i wanted with like actual

1624
00:59:20,549 --> 00:59:19,359
tables so you can rest and not just sit

1625
00:59:23,030 --> 00:59:20,559
in a thai chair

1626
00:59:23,670 --> 00:59:23,040
had coffee and snacks and food there

1627
00:59:25,430 --> 00:59:23,680
ready

1628
00:59:27,109 --> 00:59:25,440
so you could just you know go up there

1629
00:59:28,950 --> 00:59:27,119
drink some coffee listen

1630
00:59:30,549 --> 00:59:28,960
get up do ask some questions you know

1631
00:59:32,390 --> 00:59:30,559
exactly how i always wanted to

1632
00:59:33,990 --> 00:59:32,400
participate in conferences

1633
00:59:36,230 --> 00:59:34,000
anyway long story short that was the

1634
00:59:39,030 --> 00:59:36,240
whole point of that that didn't work out

1635
00:59:39,829 --> 00:59:39,040
so then i was like well we've been

1636
00:59:41,510 --> 00:59:39,839
struggling with

1637
00:59:43,270 --> 00:59:41,520
where we live it's a very small space

1638
00:59:43,990 --> 00:59:43,280
it's like i guess you call it a double

1639
00:59:45,510 --> 00:59:44,000
wide

1640
00:59:48,549 --> 00:59:45,520
and there's not enough room we have a

1641
00:59:50,390 --> 00:59:48,559
third kid come you know on the way and

1642
00:59:51,829 --> 00:59:50,400
you know there's just no room all the

1643
00:59:54,630 --> 00:59:51,839
closets have been taken up

1644
00:59:55,829 --> 00:59:54,640
and so i kept suggesting my wife well i

1645
00:59:57,990 --> 00:59:55,839
could build something

1646
01:00:00,470 --> 00:59:58,000
to where i can use it as a studio which

1647
01:00:03,670 --> 01:00:00,480
is this now and i can make a storage

1648
01:00:04,390 --> 01:00:03,680
room as well and so anyway when i wanted

1649
01:00:05,910 --> 01:00:04,400
to do that

1650
01:00:08,230 --> 01:00:05,920
that kind of came together it's

1651
01:00:09,109 --> 01:00:08,240
immediately kind of all the doors open

1652
01:00:11,030 --> 01:00:09,119
that way where

1653
01:00:12,870 --> 01:00:11,040
everything i wanted to do here the doors

1654
01:00:15,030 --> 01:00:12,880
were shut and i was surprised because

1655
01:00:17,430 --> 01:00:15,040
every step i took it's like no i want to

1656
01:00:19,190 --> 01:00:17,440
do this no i want to do that no

1657
01:00:20,549 --> 01:00:19,200
you know but i want to go this direction

1658
01:00:22,630 --> 01:00:20,559
it's like yes yes yes

1659
01:00:24,390 --> 01:00:22,640
everything is possible you know and so i

1660
01:00:25,190 --> 01:00:24,400
just went that way instead you know

1661
01:00:27,510 --> 01:00:25,200
following that

1662
01:00:29,190 --> 01:00:27,520
intuition and little did i know that

1663
01:00:31,750 --> 01:00:29,200
about a year and a half later

1664
01:00:34,230 --> 01:00:31,760
upon completing this which then this is

1665
01:00:38,470 --> 01:00:34,240
that was my hiatus of no videos

1666
01:00:41,670 --> 01:00:38,480
nothing happening you know um uh

1667
01:00:42,069 --> 01:00:41,680
covet hit and then it all made sense to

1668
01:00:44,630 --> 01:00:42,079
me

1669
01:00:45,190 --> 01:00:44,640
why it happened the way it happened

1670
01:00:47,349 --> 01:00:45,200
because

1671
01:00:48,630 --> 01:00:47,359
now i'm doing this from here and i'm

1672
01:00:51,510 --> 01:00:48,640
able to

1673
01:00:53,190 --> 01:00:51,520
to to have it and and do over skype and

1674
01:00:55,030 --> 01:00:53,200
bring in people that way

1675
01:00:56,549 --> 01:00:55,040
instead of having to physically set up

1676
01:00:58,390 --> 01:00:56,559
these events all the time which would

1677
01:00:59,349 --> 01:00:58,400
have been a lot more tedious and a bit

1678
01:01:01,829 --> 01:00:59,359
more difficult

1679
01:01:02,390 --> 01:01:01,839
not that i in the future will not do it

1680
01:01:05,349 --> 01:01:02,400
but

1681
01:01:06,150 --> 01:01:05,359
that is one of the reasons why i just

1682
01:01:08,069 --> 01:01:06,160
you know

1683
01:01:10,470 --> 01:01:08,079
i've always just done personal

1684
01:01:12,470 --> 01:01:10,480
interviews and then when this happened

1685
01:01:13,910 --> 01:01:12,480
it just kind of forced me to then be in

1686
01:01:15,030 --> 01:01:13,920
front of the camera because i was always

1687
01:01:18,069 --> 01:01:15,040
behind the camera

1688
01:01:20,150 --> 01:01:18,079
up until i first spoke um

1689
01:01:22,829 --> 01:01:20,160
in kansas city a few years back i don't

1690
01:01:24,470 --> 01:01:22,839
think anybody knew who was behind ufo

1691
01:01:26,870 --> 01:01:24,480
hub

1692
01:01:27,910 --> 01:01:26,880
i don't think i knew either i think i

1693
01:01:30,630 --> 01:01:27,920
saw your face

1694
01:01:31,670 --> 01:01:30,640
speaking at that conference if i'm not

1695
01:01:33,750 --> 01:01:31,680
mistaken

1696
01:01:35,430 --> 01:01:33,760
and then that's when i could potentially

1697
01:01:37,190 --> 01:01:35,440
put a face to the channel but

1698
01:01:38,870 --> 01:01:37,200
um yeah like you were saying you have to

1699
01:01:41,750 --> 01:01:38,880
adjust and i think your

1700
01:01:43,829 --> 01:01:41,760
perseverance uh you know did so well

1701
01:01:44,549 --> 01:01:43,839
that you're still continuing this ufo

1702
01:01:47,109 --> 01:01:44,559
hub

1703
01:01:49,190 --> 01:01:47,119
um if i may put you on the spot um is

1704
01:01:51,589 --> 01:01:49,200
there anything that you haven't shared

1705
01:01:52,950 --> 01:01:51,599
so far um in regards to your own

1706
01:01:56,470 --> 01:01:52,960
personal experiences

1707
01:01:59,109 --> 01:01:56,480
with uh either ufo or spirituality or

1708
01:02:02,710 --> 01:01:59,119
something like that

1709
01:02:04,950 --> 01:02:02,720
i think i i i don't know if it was

1710
01:02:05,990 --> 01:02:04,960
uh was it somebody else i would think it

1711
01:02:08,950 --> 01:02:06,000
was about two three weeks

1712
01:02:10,870 --> 01:02:08,960
ago that we're doing this show and there

1713
01:02:13,109 --> 01:02:10,880
there is something but there's still

1714
01:02:13,990 --> 01:02:13,119
i'm trying to work it out on my own

1715
01:02:18,630 --> 01:02:14,000
still

1716
01:02:21,670 --> 01:02:18,640
to figure it out because it uh

1717
01:02:22,870 --> 01:02:21,680
i don't you know fear is as the lord's

1718
01:02:25,109 --> 01:02:22,880
canon always used to say

1719
01:02:26,069 --> 01:02:25,119
fears for entertainment purposes only

1720
01:02:28,230 --> 01:02:26,079
you know and so

1721
01:02:29,829 --> 01:02:28,240
there was something that had occurred

1722
01:02:30,470 --> 01:02:29,839
something that happened i learned a lot

1723
01:02:32,710 --> 01:02:30,480
from

1724
01:02:33,670 --> 01:02:32,720
but it it left me with a lot of fear and

1725
01:02:36,309 --> 01:02:33,680
despair

1726
01:02:37,750 --> 01:02:36,319
and and i don't want to put that out

1727
01:02:40,230 --> 01:02:37,760
there i mean i

1728
01:02:42,069 --> 01:02:40,240
know more than what i just said because

1729
01:02:43,109 --> 01:02:42,079
i've been working on it trying to truly

1730
01:02:45,670 --> 01:02:43,119
understand it

1731
01:02:47,349 --> 01:02:45,680
get beyond that because i've always

1732
01:02:50,470 --> 01:02:47,359
everything i've ever experienced

1733
01:02:52,390 --> 01:02:50,480
i always had this huge fear of despair

1734
01:02:54,150 --> 01:02:52,400
all of this stuff and eventually be kind

1735
01:02:55,430 --> 01:02:54,160
of turned into this beautiful flower

1736
01:02:57,029 --> 01:02:55,440
that i could just then

1737
01:02:58,710 --> 01:02:57,039
see the whole picture and then i was

1738
01:03:01,190 --> 01:02:58,720
like oh okay now i get it

1739
01:03:01,990 --> 01:03:01,200
and so i always had to overcome these

1740
01:03:03,750 --> 01:03:02,000
those hurdles

1741
01:03:05,430 --> 01:03:03,760
as i call them so i feel like i'm in

1742
01:03:07,990 --> 01:03:05,440
that hurdle now and when

1743
01:03:08,710 --> 01:03:08,000
when i get through it i i would be more

1744
01:03:12,309 --> 01:03:08,720
than happy to

1745
01:03:14,470 --> 01:03:12,319
to discuss it you know and um but yeah

1746
01:03:16,309 --> 01:03:14,480
there is there always is you know it's

1747
01:03:18,309 --> 01:03:16,319
just i i didn't

1748
01:03:20,069 --> 01:03:18,319
because if i say it in the way i say it

1749
01:03:23,670 --> 01:03:20,079
now and if you

1750
01:03:25,750 --> 01:03:23,680
are really hanging on every word that i

1751
01:03:28,789 --> 01:03:25,760
say i don't want to leave you hopeless

1752
01:03:29,910 --> 01:03:28,799
if that makes sense yeah yeah no no

1753
01:03:31,829 --> 01:03:29,920
worries i just uh

1754
01:03:33,270 --> 01:03:31,839
you know wanted to see if any any other

1755
01:03:35,510 --> 01:03:33,280
positive things

1756
01:03:37,430 --> 01:03:35,520
uh that you um that you haven't

1757
01:03:39,190 --> 01:03:37,440
mentioned up to this point but yeah yeah

1758
01:03:41,190 --> 01:03:39,200
they always start out negative though

1759
01:03:43,430 --> 01:03:41,200
that that one thing i can tell you don't

1760
01:03:45,029 --> 01:03:43,440
you know a lot of times because then you

1761
01:03:46,069 --> 01:03:45,039
are filtering it through your own

1762
01:03:48,390 --> 01:03:46,079
mechanism

1763
01:03:50,230 --> 01:03:48,400
and then um you know you're going

1764
01:03:53,990 --> 01:03:50,240
through all these different processes

1765
01:03:56,630 --> 01:03:54,000
and all this stuff and um

1766
01:03:58,470 --> 01:03:56,640
you know that creates a lot of fear only

1767
01:04:00,630 --> 01:03:58,480
then when you keep keep at it

1768
01:04:02,230 --> 01:04:00,640
keep at it and finally overcome this

1769
01:04:04,789 --> 01:04:02,240
difficulty do you understand the bigger

1770
01:04:07,029 --> 01:04:04,799
picture and then becomes a huge positive

1771
01:04:08,309 --> 01:04:07,039
you know but not many people are willing

1772
01:04:10,390 --> 01:04:08,319
willing to do that

1773
01:04:11,589 --> 01:04:10,400
you know and i'm not scolding anyone for

1774
01:04:14,309 --> 01:04:11,599
it it's just how my

1775
01:04:14,630 --> 01:04:14,319
mind works it's like okay i don't you

1776
01:04:17,750 --> 01:04:14,640
know

1777
01:04:19,750 --> 01:04:17,760
like i don't like fear i don't like

1778
01:04:22,630 --> 01:04:19,760
being afraid it's like so if i'm afraid

1779
01:04:23,029 --> 01:04:22,640
why you know so i just ask why why why

1780
01:04:24,789 --> 01:04:23,039
why

1781
01:04:29,510 --> 01:04:24,799
until they finally break through and

1782
01:04:34,309 --> 01:04:32,630
but uh so anyway no uh carlos i'd love

1783
01:04:35,109 --> 01:04:34,319
to chat with you and we'll continue let

1784
01:04:37,750 --> 01:04:35,119
me just ask

1785
01:04:38,230 --> 01:04:37,760
anyone else that's in uh telegram who

1786
01:04:40,470 --> 01:04:38,240
would

1787
01:04:41,829 --> 01:04:40,480
like to share any of their stories or

1788
01:04:44,710 --> 01:04:41,839
talk to me please just

1789
01:04:45,270 --> 01:04:44,720
raise your hand or there's a little

1790
01:04:47,910 --> 01:04:45,280
button

1791
01:04:49,029 --> 01:04:47,920
that raises the hand for you and then i

1792
01:04:52,470 --> 01:04:49,039
know you want to

1793
01:04:54,309 --> 01:04:52,480
you want to chat carlos

1794
01:04:56,470 --> 01:04:54,319
bradley wanted to be on i hope you don't

1795
01:04:57,910 --> 01:04:56,480
mind and if i if there's more time later

1796
01:04:59,029 --> 01:04:57,920
i'd love to come back to you if that's

1797
01:05:00,549 --> 01:04:59,039
okay

1798
01:05:03,190 --> 01:05:00,559
yeah not at all thank you so much for

1799
01:05:05,349 --> 01:05:03,200
having me i'm i'm glad i appreciate you

1800
01:05:07,109 --> 01:05:05,359
you know starting out the conversation i

1801
01:05:09,029 --> 01:05:07,119
i'm grateful for that

1802
01:05:11,430 --> 01:05:09,039
thank you so much sir okay have a nice

1803
01:05:13,109 --> 01:05:11,440
night don't go away i might get back to

1804
01:05:18,549 --> 01:05:13,119
you later

1805
01:05:25,430 --> 01:05:22,069
oh it keeps shifting on me mute

1806
01:05:26,390 --> 01:05:25,440
um bradley i believe you're on if you

1807
01:05:30,789 --> 01:05:26,400
unmute yourself

1808
01:05:34,470 --> 01:05:30,799
uh just uh go on and start sharing

1809
01:05:36,309 --> 01:05:34,480
yeah uh just hi everyone um

1810
01:05:37,670 --> 01:05:36,319
you know edna and i were talking a

1811
01:05:40,150 --> 01:05:37,680
little bit earlier uh

1812
01:05:41,029 --> 01:05:40,160
there is just one little thing i'd like

1813
01:05:43,510 --> 01:05:41,039
to share with

1814
01:05:46,390 --> 01:05:43,520
with everyone just to as a affirmation

1815
01:05:50,069 --> 01:05:46,400
if this ever happens to anybody else

1816
01:05:53,270 --> 01:05:50,079
uh a few days ago we had a family member

1817
01:05:55,510 --> 01:05:53,280
pass and the the thing to share about

1818
01:05:58,309 --> 01:05:55,520
this story is uh

1819
01:06:00,150 --> 01:05:58,319
the day before she passed uh she was

1820
01:06:01,829 --> 01:06:00,160
saying that you know one of her children

1821
01:06:03,750 --> 01:06:01,839
were in the room

1822
01:06:05,430 --> 01:06:03,760
and you know of course these things

1823
01:06:07,829 --> 01:06:05,440
sound silly but

1824
01:06:08,630 --> 01:06:07,839
when you look back it's quite

1825
01:06:11,109 --> 01:06:08,640
interesting

1826
01:06:13,029 --> 01:06:11,119
um because all of our family members

1827
01:06:14,710 --> 01:06:13,039
before they they pass they've all told

1828
01:06:16,470 --> 01:06:14,720
me the exact same thing

1829
01:06:18,789 --> 01:06:16,480
you know that some other family member

1830
01:06:20,549 --> 01:06:18,799
was there waiting for them

1831
01:06:22,069 --> 01:06:20,559
i don't know about anybody else but to

1832
01:06:23,670 --> 01:06:22,079
me that's quite a positive thing

1833
01:06:26,230 --> 01:06:23,680
that i think it's a nice thing to look

1834
01:06:30,870 --> 01:06:29,349
yeah bradley my condolences again i know

1835
01:06:33,990 --> 01:06:30,880
we talked about it a bit

1836
01:06:35,829 --> 01:06:34,000
earlier before before the show began

1837
01:06:37,829 --> 01:06:35,839
and i appreciate you still you know

1838
01:06:39,670 --> 01:06:37,839
logging in and being here with us

1839
01:06:41,109 --> 01:06:39,680
you know i was kind of confirming just

1840
01:06:42,789 --> 01:06:41,119
for anyone else that

1841
01:06:44,309 --> 01:06:42,799
wasn't previewed to our conversation

1842
01:06:47,349 --> 01:06:44,319
earlier is that

1843
01:06:48,150 --> 01:06:47,359
i had a good friend of mine and uh i

1844
01:06:52,069 --> 01:06:48,160
believe nathan

1845
01:06:54,870 --> 01:06:52,079
would know him uh rick he's um

1846
01:06:56,069 --> 01:06:54,880
he kind of volunteered uh to work at

1847
01:06:59,109 --> 01:06:56,079
this place where they

1848
01:07:05,670 --> 01:07:02,789
ah why can't i remember it's um um

1849
01:07:06,630 --> 01:07:05,680
people basically that that are in the

1850
01:07:08,549 --> 01:07:06,640
last stages

1851
01:07:10,630 --> 01:07:08,559
and there is no other help for them

1852
01:07:12,390 --> 01:07:10,640
medically hospice basically he was

1853
01:07:13,270 --> 01:07:12,400
volunteering at these different hospice

1854
01:07:17,029 --> 01:07:13,280
places

1855
01:07:20,549 --> 01:07:17,039
and something that uh you know he

1856
01:07:21,270 --> 01:07:20,559
he described was you know very much the

1857
01:07:22,950 --> 01:07:21,280
same thing

1858
01:07:24,710 --> 01:07:22,960
like you said bradley's that you know

1859
01:07:27,430 --> 01:07:24,720
they um he's

1860
01:07:28,710 --> 01:07:27,440
he noticed within a day or two if

1861
01:07:31,190 --> 01:07:28,720
somebody would tell them

1862
01:07:32,549 --> 01:07:31,200
about that they saw a loved one or

1863
01:07:35,349 --> 01:07:32,559
relative come to them

1864
01:07:37,190 --> 01:07:35,359
that usually soon after they pass and i

1865
01:07:39,109 --> 01:07:37,200
wonder if somebody has

1866
01:07:41,990 --> 01:07:39,119
you know has done more of extensive you

1867
01:07:45,190 --> 01:07:42,000
know research in some way or another

1868
01:07:45,829 --> 01:07:45,200
about that to see if if um you know if

1869
01:07:48,390 --> 01:07:45,839
there's

1870
01:07:49,910 --> 01:07:48,400
more to it if that's kind of like you

1871
01:07:52,309 --> 01:07:49,920
know a worldwide

1872
01:07:53,349 --> 01:07:52,319
thing but then again as you said earlier

1873
01:07:55,670 --> 01:07:53,359
you're in

1874
01:07:56,710 --> 01:07:55,680
south africa i'm in the united states

1875
01:07:59,510 --> 01:07:56,720
and that's pretty

1876
01:08:03,190 --> 01:07:59,520
far apart and there's identical stories

1877
01:08:06,150 --> 01:08:03,200
to be told so there's something to it

1878
01:08:07,589 --> 01:08:06,160
yeah and then uh forgive me i'll go off

1879
01:08:10,789 --> 01:08:07,599
on a tangent on a second

1880
01:08:12,069 --> 01:08:10,799
sure um you know if we if we take things

1881
01:08:15,589 --> 01:08:12,079
into context like

1882
01:08:17,510 --> 01:08:15,599
you were mentioning dmt earlier um

1883
01:08:20,229 --> 01:08:17,520
you know they say the dmt is released

1884
01:08:21,990 --> 01:08:20,239
before you know moments of death or

1885
01:08:23,269 --> 01:08:22,000
maybe in this case it was a day early

1886
01:08:25,749 --> 01:08:23,279
who knows because

1887
01:08:27,669 --> 01:08:25,759
this person was on a lot of uh hippie

1888
01:08:30,870 --> 01:08:27,679
pain medication

1889
01:08:33,189 --> 01:08:30,880
and you know if you think about that

1890
01:08:36,149 --> 01:08:33,199
that's sort of the catalyst it seems to

1891
01:08:37,349 --> 01:08:36,159
to sort of invoke these experiences or

1892
01:08:40,950 --> 01:08:37,359
maybe just to see

1893
01:08:41,829 --> 01:08:40,960
i don't know um you know i think that's

1894
01:08:43,349 --> 01:08:41,839
maybe

1895
01:08:45,269 --> 01:08:43,359
something that's got to do with it i

1896
01:08:47,430 --> 01:08:45,279
mean because dmt

1897
01:08:49,189 --> 01:08:47,440
like you say there are natural ways to

1898
01:08:51,349 --> 01:08:49,199
to go about it i don't think it'll be as

1899
01:08:53,030 --> 01:08:51,359
potent as doing ayahuasca but

1900
01:08:56,789 --> 01:08:53,040
there are different natural ways to do

1901
01:09:00,550 --> 01:08:58,630
right oh okay is that what you were

1902
01:09:01,990 --> 01:09:00,560
going to say i thought when you meant a

1903
01:09:04,950 --> 01:09:02,000
tangent to

1904
01:09:05,430 --> 01:09:04,960
go off something a lot longer than that

1905
01:09:09,430 --> 01:09:05,440
uh

1906
01:09:13,269 --> 01:09:09,440
i'll buy everybody with that so

1907
01:09:16,070 --> 01:09:13,279
i gave it a miss we know um

1908
01:09:17,030 --> 01:09:16,080
uh riley what's what's interesting is uh

1909
01:09:20,070 --> 01:09:17,040
something that's

1910
01:09:22,149 --> 01:09:20,080
um that's been happening so

1911
01:09:23,349 --> 01:09:22,159
i don't know i can't talk about it much

1912
01:09:26,550 --> 01:09:23,359
now but within

1913
01:09:29,590 --> 01:09:26,560
um the the greater family

1914
01:09:33,349 --> 01:09:29,600
and my in-laws there's a lot going on

1915
01:09:36,870 --> 01:09:33,359
and uh so there's

1916
01:09:39,349 --> 01:09:36,880
let's just say an individual

1917
01:09:40,309 --> 01:09:39,359
or several individuals that are you know

1918
01:09:43,669 --> 01:09:40,319
related to

1919
01:09:46,229 --> 01:09:43,679
to dolores cannon that um

1920
01:09:47,189 --> 01:09:46,239
there's some disputes going on let's

1921
01:09:50,070 --> 01:09:47,199
just say that

1922
01:09:50,470 --> 01:09:50,080
and so anyway it's been a long process

1923
01:09:53,030 --> 01:09:50,480
you know

1924
01:09:54,550 --> 01:09:53,040
two three years in the making and what

1925
01:09:57,910 --> 01:09:54,560
was interesting is that

1926
01:10:00,470 --> 01:09:57,920
my wife and i at different times

1927
01:10:01,990 --> 01:10:00,480
and long enough apart to where i had

1928
01:10:05,110 --> 01:10:02,000
already forgotten what she told

1929
01:10:06,950 --> 01:10:05,120
me but we both dreamt something similar

1930
01:10:10,310 --> 01:10:06,960
to where

1931
01:10:12,790 --> 01:10:10,320
dolores was part of our dreams

1932
01:10:14,229 --> 01:10:12,800
and she was there and present and she

1933
01:10:19,750 --> 01:10:14,239
was kind of

1934
01:10:21,510 --> 01:10:19,760
came back to life so to say and we were

1935
01:10:23,669 --> 01:10:21,520
all telling her what had occurred

1936
01:10:25,430 --> 01:10:23,679
what had happened and she was kind of

1937
01:10:28,709 --> 01:10:25,440
you know to to let her know like

1938
01:10:30,390 --> 01:10:28,719
you know we made sure that

1939
01:10:32,149 --> 01:10:30,400
you know this individual doesn't keep

1940
01:10:33,510 --> 01:10:32,159
doing these certain things that could be

1941
01:10:35,830 --> 01:10:33,520
potentially damaging

1942
01:10:37,510 --> 01:10:35,840
but anyway um so my wife had dreamed

1943
01:10:39,830 --> 01:10:37,520
something similar to that and

1944
01:10:41,430 --> 01:10:39,840
and i did as well you know and it's

1945
01:10:43,910 --> 01:10:41,440
funny that in real life

1946
01:10:44,630 --> 01:10:43,920
this process is coming to a conclusion

1947
01:10:46,870 --> 01:10:44,640
and

1948
01:10:48,470 --> 01:10:46,880
you know it's almost like um like a

1949
01:10:50,390 --> 01:10:48,480
premonition so to say

1950
01:10:52,390 --> 01:10:50,400
that we weren't you know before we

1951
01:10:54,630 --> 01:10:52,400
weren't too

1952
01:10:56,310 --> 01:10:54,640
too sure where it's gonna go but with

1953
01:10:59,590 --> 01:10:56,320
her of the sudden

1954
01:11:01,590 --> 01:10:59,600
entering our dreams and we're kind of um

1955
01:11:02,709 --> 01:11:01,600
talking and discussing in these ways it

1956
01:11:04,870 --> 01:11:02,719
was almost like

1957
01:11:06,709 --> 01:11:04,880
like a signal that this is slowly coming

1958
01:11:09,350 --> 01:11:06,719
to an end and sure enough it's almost

1959
01:11:13,270 --> 01:11:11,750
yeah yeah i mean it's it's it's amazing

1960
01:11:14,470 --> 01:11:13,280
how these things happen i mean just

1961
01:11:17,590 --> 01:11:14,480
mentioning dolores

1962
01:11:20,070 --> 01:11:17,600
um you know just for me personally

1963
01:11:21,590 --> 01:11:20,080
i think when it comes to the content she

1964
01:11:23,110 --> 01:11:21,600
put out i don't think

1965
01:11:24,630 --> 01:11:23,120
there's nothing i haven't seen or heard

1966
01:11:26,470 --> 01:11:24,640
from it or

1967
01:11:27,750 --> 01:11:26,480
read for that fact except i think the

1968
01:11:30,790 --> 01:11:27,760
last book

1969
01:11:32,630 --> 01:11:30,800
um you know and same for your content

1970
01:11:34,390 --> 01:11:32,640
there's i've watched everything over and

1971
01:11:36,390 --> 01:11:34,400
over and over you know

1972
01:11:38,310 --> 01:11:36,400
and uh you were mentioning earlier sort

1973
01:11:40,709 --> 01:11:38,320
of about well in a previous

1974
01:11:42,470 --> 01:11:40,719
uh you know cast as well you were

1975
01:11:45,510 --> 01:11:42,480
mentioning about connecting dots

1976
01:11:46,790 --> 01:11:45,520
uh i'm not quite there but you're right

1977
01:11:49,510 --> 01:11:46,800
you know whether we're speaking of

1978
01:11:51,910 --> 01:11:49,520
dreams or physical realities it's just

1979
01:11:52,790 --> 01:11:51,920
at some point everything does connect

1980
01:11:56,790 --> 01:11:52,800
you know it's

1981
01:11:59,830 --> 01:11:56,800
it's strange how it works right

1982
01:12:02,630 --> 01:11:59,840
but you know um uh if i

1983
01:12:03,110 --> 01:12:02,640
if i may share and if i'm not being too

1984
01:12:05,350 --> 01:12:03,120
bold

1985
01:12:06,630 --> 01:12:05,360
um you know i don't know if you heard my

1986
01:12:08,470 --> 01:12:06,640
experience but

1987
01:12:09,669 --> 01:12:08,480
you know when i had my my near-death

1988
01:12:12,950 --> 01:12:09,679
experience

1989
01:12:15,270 --> 01:12:12,960
you know um it was it was

1990
01:12:17,270 --> 01:12:15,280
something that obviously no one no one

1991
01:12:18,070 --> 01:12:17,280
expects to ever really come back from it

1992
01:12:22,310 --> 01:12:18,080
you know

1993
01:12:25,830 --> 01:12:22,320
um but it was interesting how um

1994
01:12:28,790 --> 01:12:25,840
there was no there was no

1995
01:12:30,070 --> 01:12:28,800
there was no pain there was no worry

1996
01:12:33,030 --> 01:12:30,080
there was no sorrow

1997
01:12:33,910 --> 01:12:33,040
that it was simply like like a suit has

1998
01:12:36,870 --> 01:12:33,920
just been

1999
01:12:37,990 --> 01:12:36,880
taken off it's it's gone and all there

2000
01:12:41,270 --> 01:12:38,000
is is just this

2001
01:12:44,310 --> 01:12:41,280
this uh peaceful tranquil state of of

2002
01:12:47,669 --> 01:12:44,320
of being you know that then you can

2003
01:12:49,590 --> 01:12:47,679
kind of start to analyze and think about

2004
01:12:52,630 --> 01:12:49,600
whichever new direction you want that

2005
01:12:53,430 --> 01:12:52,640
but uninhibited to where before you

2006
01:12:56,550 --> 01:12:53,440
always

2007
01:12:57,030 --> 01:12:56,560
would would think about planetary things

2008
01:12:59,350 --> 01:12:57,040
with

2009
01:13:01,590 --> 01:12:59,360
consequences like if i do this this is

2010
01:13:03,669 --> 01:13:01,600
going to happen if i do that then this

2011
01:13:05,910 --> 01:13:03,679
is going to occur you know and there's

2012
01:13:09,189 --> 01:13:05,920
always consequences in some way

2013
01:13:11,910 --> 01:13:09,199
and so we they we either move forward

2014
01:13:13,830 --> 01:13:11,920
or backwards based on those those

2015
01:13:15,510 --> 01:13:13,840
consequences whereas in on the other

2016
01:13:15,990 --> 01:13:15,520
side there's just absolutely none of

2017
01:13:20,630 --> 01:13:16,000
that

2018
01:13:25,030 --> 01:13:22,630
it's what i would what i was just gonna

2019
01:13:27,189 --> 01:13:25,040
say is that you know

2020
01:13:28,310 --> 01:13:27,199
one you know if there's if there's one

2021
01:13:31,430 --> 01:13:28,320
thing that's

2022
01:13:34,149 --> 01:13:31,440
that's for sure is that um

2023
01:13:34,709 --> 01:13:34,159
we are more in in pain now being alive

2024
01:13:38,950 --> 01:13:34,719
than

2025
01:13:39,990 --> 01:13:38,960
like they've already moved on and to a

2026
01:13:42,790 --> 01:13:40,000
point to where

2027
01:13:44,550 --> 01:13:42,800
they just you know they can just take

2028
01:13:45,030 --> 01:13:44,560
whatever direction they want to take

2029
01:13:47,510 --> 01:13:45,040
next

2030
01:13:48,229 --> 01:13:47,520
you know and without having to to worry

2031
01:13:52,470 --> 01:13:48,239
about

2032
01:13:55,669 --> 01:13:52,480
stuck with here

2033
01:13:57,990 --> 01:13:55,679
you know edna um

2034
01:14:00,390 --> 01:13:58,000
forgive me for saying this but you know

2035
01:14:00,950 --> 01:14:00,400
you and i don't exactly uh originate

2036
01:14:04,310 --> 01:14:00,960
from

2037
01:14:06,229 --> 01:14:04,320
first world countries so you know

2038
01:14:07,590 --> 01:14:06,239
we had to put it younger life we got

2039
01:14:09,270 --> 01:14:07,600
used to things a little bit different

2040
01:14:10,950 --> 01:14:09,280
compared to to most people probably

2041
01:14:13,189 --> 01:14:10,960
watching the watching your show right

2042
01:14:16,870 --> 01:14:13,199
now

2043
01:14:19,350 --> 01:14:16,880
consequence

2044
01:14:21,510 --> 01:14:19,360
to me what i find fascinating about this

2045
01:14:23,830 --> 01:14:21,520
whole thing that we call humanity

2046
01:14:27,110 --> 01:14:23,840
and i speak from my heart not from you

2047
01:14:31,110 --> 01:14:29,270
when i think of all the suffering and

2048
01:14:34,709 --> 01:14:31,120
everything that's gone on

2049
01:14:36,470 --> 01:14:34,719
usually um it's it's some bad definition

2050
01:14:38,310 --> 01:14:36,480
that we've created or it's some bad

2051
01:14:41,750 --> 01:14:38,320
definition that somebody else has

2052
01:14:42,709 --> 01:14:41,760
created for us um you know the the

2053
01:14:44,630 --> 01:14:42,719
actual

2054
01:14:46,870 --> 01:14:44,640
incidence that really creates suffering

2055
01:14:49,910 --> 01:14:46,880
is actually very very minimal

2056
01:14:53,189 --> 01:14:49,920
um you know borrowing economic

2057
01:14:55,350 --> 01:14:53,199
uh how do i put it um economic backlash

2058
01:14:57,350 --> 01:14:55,360
you know like um hunger and homelessness

2059
01:14:59,830 --> 01:14:57,360
that's a very different topic

2060
01:15:01,110 --> 01:14:59,840
um you know but when i look overall at

2061
01:15:02,709 --> 01:15:01,120
the average person

2062
01:15:05,430 --> 01:15:02,719
you know most of our suffering is just

2063
01:15:06,390 --> 01:15:05,440
self-created i mean i'm so guilty of

2064
01:15:09,350 --> 01:15:06,400
this in my life

2065
01:15:10,950 --> 01:15:09,360
i think we all are we all do it um you

2066
01:15:13,990 --> 01:15:10,960
know so when you say

2067
01:15:14,790 --> 01:15:14,000
you know in that state people are as you

2068
01:15:17,270 --> 01:15:14,800
say they

2069
01:15:18,229 --> 01:15:17,280
in the state of tranquility i believe

2070
01:15:20,630 --> 01:15:18,239
you i mean

2071
01:15:22,870 --> 01:15:20,640
um i never had a near-death experience

2072
01:15:24,630 --> 01:15:22,880
but i hadn't experienced one which was

2073
01:15:28,070 --> 01:15:24,640
drug induced

2074
01:15:30,070 --> 01:15:28,080
and you know i was i can't say i was a

2075
01:15:32,229 --> 01:15:30,080
i was in a conscious state but i had an

2076
01:15:33,990 --> 01:15:32,239
experience where

2077
01:15:36,070 --> 01:15:34,000
you were aware of certain things and i'm

2078
01:15:38,229 --> 01:15:36,080
not talking about seeing you know

2079
01:15:39,189 --> 01:15:38,239
like hallucinations but you were just

2080
01:15:40,630 --> 01:15:39,199
there's no other

2081
01:15:42,950 --> 01:15:40,640
thing i'm just saying you were just

2082
01:15:44,470 --> 01:15:42,960
aware um and you sort of

2083
01:15:46,630 --> 01:15:44,480
you feel like you snapped back to

2084
01:15:49,350 --> 01:15:46,640
reality so yeah i can i can relate to

2085
01:15:52,870 --> 01:15:49,360
what you're saying there

2086
01:15:55,430 --> 01:15:52,880
right well you know um yeah

2087
01:15:56,390 --> 01:15:55,440
the thing is i think um just the way the

2088
01:16:02,630 --> 01:15:56,400
the

2089
01:16:03,350 --> 01:16:02,640
you know which this is that's all we all

2090
01:16:05,590 --> 01:16:03,360
are

2091
01:16:07,189 --> 01:16:05,600
you know and eventually we just stop

2092
01:16:10,950 --> 01:16:07,199
playing this character

2093
01:16:13,990 --> 01:16:10,960
you know um it um it doesn't like

2094
01:16:14,630 --> 01:16:14,000
negative things and so it creates this

2095
01:16:17,430 --> 01:16:14,640
entire

2096
01:16:19,510 --> 01:16:17,440
world an environment based on on all

2097
01:16:21,830 --> 01:16:19,520
these negative possibilities

2098
01:16:22,550 --> 01:16:21,840
from which it needs to guard itself you

2099
01:16:25,510 --> 01:16:22,560
know

2100
01:16:27,510 --> 01:16:25,520
and um and it's those things that often

2101
01:16:28,550 --> 01:16:27,520
are just kind of they sneak up on you to

2102
01:16:31,270 --> 01:16:28,560
where like you said

2103
01:16:33,189 --> 01:16:31,280
you don't realize that you created them

2104
01:16:35,590 --> 01:16:33,199
you know this worrisome is something you

2105
01:16:38,149 --> 01:16:35,600
started out and only you can stop it

2106
01:16:38,790 --> 01:16:38,159
you know but we think then make make it

2107
01:16:40,950 --> 01:16:38,800
into

2108
01:16:43,350 --> 01:16:40,960
something that is outside of our control

2109
01:16:45,990 --> 01:16:43,360
and it's out there and always be out

2110
01:16:48,149 --> 01:16:46,000
there and all we can do is just still

2111
01:16:51,110 --> 01:16:48,159
suffer but either we can maybe

2112
01:16:51,510 --> 01:16:51,120
mitigate whether it's a lot or less you

2113
01:16:55,189 --> 01:16:51,520
know

2114
01:16:57,110 --> 01:16:55,199
and i just um i wish that

2115
01:16:59,830 --> 01:16:57,120
people would come to an understanding on

2116
01:17:01,750 --> 01:16:59,840
their own to work and just realize like

2117
01:17:03,590 --> 01:17:01,760
just come straight down to your belief

2118
01:17:04,470 --> 01:17:03,600
system change it the way you look at

2119
01:17:07,430 --> 01:17:04,480
something and it will

2120
01:17:09,270 --> 01:17:07,440
change you know the the way the way you

2121
01:17:11,750 --> 01:17:09,280
interact with it

2122
01:17:13,270 --> 01:17:11,760
yeah yeah uh and then i'm gonna share a

2123
01:17:14,630 --> 01:17:13,280
very quick personal story on that

2124
01:17:17,669 --> 01:17:14,640
because

2125
01:17:19,750 --> 01:17:17,679
you know when i was very young um

2126
01:17:20,709 --> 01:17:19,760
i had a girlfriend whose father was

2127
01:17:22,550 --> 01:17:20,719
basically and

2128
01:17:25,189 --> 01:17:22,560
he was a known murderer he's been

2129
01:17:28,390 --> 01:17:25,199
convicted for stuff and whatnot

2130
01:17:30,149 --> 01:17:28,400
and anyway long story short uh

2131
01:17:32,229 --> 01:17:30,159
i don't know i did something to really

2132
01:17:34,310 --> 01:17:32,239
pee this guy off one day

2133
01:17:35,430 --> 01:17:34,320
and he said to me oh i'm gonna come get

2134
01:17:37,830 --> 01:17:35,440
you i'm gonna come get you and i

2135
01:17:40,149 --> 01:17:37,840
remember sitting in my office in fear

2136
01:17:41,669 --> 01:17:40,159
you know and you're thinking is this guy

2137
01:17:43,350 --> 01:17:41,679
coming is he not coming and then

2138
01:17:46,550 --> 01:17:43,360
eventually i said you know what

2139
01:17:49,189 --> 01:17:46,560
what happens happens and then after that

2140
01:17:50,709 --> 01:17:49,199
i confronted the guy and i said well we

2141
01:17:51,430 --> 01:17:50,719
can sort things out like this and that

2142
01:17:53,510 --> 01:17:51,440
was the end of it

2143
01:17:54,790 --> 01:17:53,520
fear was gone there was no situation to

2144
01:17:57,990 --> 01:17:54,800
handle

2145
01:18:00,470 --> 01:17:58,000
you know but what i'm playing at is that

2146
01:18:01,910 --> 01:18:00,480
if i went with the mental construct i

2147
01:18:02,709 --> 01:18:01,920
could have gone home and sat in my room

2148
01:18:07,110 --> 01:18:02,719
and locked myself

2149
01:18:13,590 --> 01:18:11,669
right right you know

2150
01:18:15,669 --> 01:18:13,600
that was you know one of one of the

2151
01:18:17,430 --> 01:18:15,679
things when i when i first moved to

2152
01:18:19,510 --> 01:18:17,440
to robertsville when i first moved out

2153
01:18:23,110 --> 01:18:19,520
of my parents house and bought a house

2154
01:18:23,750 --> 01:18:23,120
and all of this basically began for me

2155
01:18:26,229 --> 01:18:23,760
just being

2156
01:18:28,310 --> 01:18:26,239
by myself in the woods you know one of

2157
01:18:31,430 --> 01:18:28,320
the things that were constantly

2158
01:18:35,030 --> 01:18:31,440
was turning into quite a fear was

2159
01:18:38,070 --> 01:18:35,040
that somebody would break in and take

2160
01:18:40,310 --> 01:18:38,080
the little that i have right and

2161
01:18:42,149 --> 01:18:40,320
i just constantly kept just thinking

2162
01:18:43,030 --> 01:18:42,159
about it and and all these other things

2163
01:18:44,709 --> 01:18:43,040
were just

2164
01:18:47,110 --> 01:18:44,719
constantly every time i went you know i

2165
01:18:48,630 --> 01:18:47,120
was trying to put a security system in

2166
01:18:51,669 --> 01:18:48,640
and all these other things

2167
01:18:53,430 --> 01:18:51,679
and so this was

2168
01:18:54,870 --> 01:18:53,440
something that was interesting talking

2169
01:18:56,390 --> 01:18:54,880
about you know some of the things i've

2170
01:18:59,030 --> 01:18:56,400
shared in the past but i'll just

2171
01:18:59,910 --> 01:18:59,040
use it as a um an experience that

2172
01:19:02,390 --> 01:18:59,920
actually

2173
01:19:03,189 --> 01:19:02,400
um was like a perfect reflection to me

2174
01:19:05,590 --> 01:19:03,199
at that time

2175
01:19:07,590 --> 01:19:05,600
understanding how this whole interaction

2176
01:19:07,990 --> 01:19:07,600
between all of us interacting with each

2177
01:19:11,750 --> 01:19:08,000
other's

2178
01:19:12,630 --> 01:19:11,760
work um so i had one some of the

2179
01:19:15,350 --> 01:19:12,640
experiences

2180
01:19:17,270 --> 01:19:15,360
by that by us by the certain point where

2181
01:19:17,990 --> 01:19:17,280
i just realized we're playing a role for

2182
01:19:21,030 --> 01:19:18,000
each other

2183
01:19:21,669 --> 01:19:21,040
right and so i then i was understanding

2184
01:19:24,950 --> 01:19:21,679
okay well

2185
01:19:27,510 --> 01:19:24,960
that means i'm

2186
01:19:28,870 --> 01:19:27,520
i'm attracting what what i'm attracting

2187
01:19:31,030 --> 01:19:28,880
with because of these

2188
01:19:33,270 --> 01:19:31,040
emotions that are just vibrating into

2189
01:19:35,910 --> 01:19:33,280
this strong signal toward

2190
01:19:37,590 --> 01:19:35,920
i attract whatever it is that i fear you

2191
01:19:38,870 --> 01:19:37,600
attract whatever it is that you love you

2192
01:19:40,630 --> 01:19:38,880
know everything you know

2193
01:19:42,550 --> 01:19:40,640
whatever whatever it is you you

2194
01:19:44,709 --> 01:19:42,560
immediately attracted to you

2195
01:19:46,310 --> 01:19:44,719
well one of my strongest that was over

2196
01:19:48,229 --> 01:19:46,320
and over and over happening was being

2197
01:19:49,830 --> 01:19:48,239
broken into being broken into

2198
01:19:51,830 --> 01:19:49,840
so then i realized that that was

2199
01:19:54,950 --> 01:19:51,840
happening you know and then

2200
01:19:57,430 --> 01:19:54,960
i got broken into right and

2201
01:19:59,030 --> 01:19:57,440
as i was at the house i see the broken

2202
01:20:00,630 --> 01:19:59,040
door and all of the stuff and i'm

2203
01:20:03,030 --> 01:20:00,640
standing in the room and i'm

2204
01:20:04,470 --> 01:20:03,040
as i'm thinking about this i could

2205
01:20:08,390 --> 01:20:04,480
almost feel

2206
01:20:12,310 --> 01:20:08,400
and sense the people that broke into

2207
01:20:14,149 --> 01:20:12,320
my place and it was almost like you know

2208
01:20:16,070 --> 01:20:14,159
there you go now you have the experience

2209
01:20:18,070 --> 01:20:16,080
of what it feels like being broken into

2210
01:20:20,310 --> 01:20:18,080
you've been fearing is all this time

2211
01:20:22,149 --> 01:20:20,320
right i'm pretty sure they had no idea

2212
01:20:24,709 --> 01:20:22,159
that this is what was going on in

2213
01:20:26,550 --> 01:20:24,719
you know on this different level to them

2214
01:20:27,590 --> 01:20:26,560
they were just doing things as every

2215
01:20:30,709 --> 01:20:27,600
other criminal does

2216
01:20:33,750 --> 01:20:30,719
but you know it was something that

2217
01:20:36,390 --> 01:20:33,760
it was a it was an understanding

2218
01:20:37,270 --> 01:20:36,400
that it was very uh hands-on it was you

2219
01:20:39,430 --> 01:20:37,280
know i could i

2220
01:20:40,870 --> 01:20:39,440
could almost have an immediate

2221
01:20:42,709 --> 01:20:40,880
reflection of

2222
01:20:44,629 --> 01:20:42,719
this is what you felt were here it is

2223
01:20:46,550 --> 01:20:44,639
for you and so

2224
01:20:48,070 --> 01:20:46,560
i worked on a great deal on overcoming

2225
01:20:48,709 --> 01:20:48,080
that and overcoming these different

2226
01:20:51,910 --> 01:20:48,719
fears

2227
01:20:53,830 --> 01:20:51,920
and so then i was like okay well i'm

2228
01:20:55,910 --> 01:20:53,840
you know i'm you know i think i

2229
01:20:57,430 --> 01:20:55,920
understand this i i don't have that fear

2230
01:20:59,350 --> 01:20:57,440
anymore i mean if something happens

2231
01:21:01,910 --> 01:20:59,360
happens which is you know fine

2232
01:21:03,510 --> 01:21:01,920
because now i'm not accessing it from

2233
01:21:06,709 --> 01:21:03,520
this fearful i'm a victim

2234
01:21:08,709 --> 01:21:06,719
point of view right and then soon after

2235
01:21:09,910 --> 01:21:08,719
i came to that realization i got broken

2236
01:21:12,070 --> 01:21:09,920
into again

2237
01:21:13,910 --> 01:21:12,080
right and it was like you know and i was

2238
01:21:15,030 --> 01:21:13,920
just looking at it and i could only just

2239
01:21:18,229 --> 01:21:15,040
kind of like

2240
01:21:20,070 --> 01:21:18,239
like laugh because i understood now why

2241
01:21:20,870 --> 01:21:20,080
it was happening again because it was

2242
01:21:27,430 --> 01:21:20,880
like a

2243
01:21:27,990 --> 01:21:27,440
and now i got a chance to then say okay

2244
01:21:29,830 --> 01:21:28,000
i got over

2245
01:21:31,990 --> 01:21:29,840
this feeling i understand my emotions

2246
01:21:33,590 --> 01:21:32,000
i'm okay with that bam it happens again

2247
01:21:35,669 --> 01:21:33,600
it's almost like a test like are you

2248
01:21:39,030 --> 01:21:35,679
really okay with that right

2249
01:21:39,990 --> 01:21:39,040
and so um yeah and i had now perfectly

2250
01:21:41,990 --> 01:21:40,000
was i just

2251
01:21:43,430 --> 01:21:42,000
because there was nothing that that was

2252
01:21:45,430 --> 01:21:43,440
taken that i didn't need

2253
01:21:46,790 --> 01:21:45,440
it was everything i just had left over

2254
01:21:49,350 --> 01:21:46,800
because i had this huge

2255
01:21:50,550 --> 01:21:49,360
place you know single person five

2256
01:21:52,310 --> 01:21:50,560
bedroom house

2257
01:21:54,149 --> 01:21:52,320
you know um you know my parents

2258
01:21:54,870 --> 01:21:54,159
everything they had kept giving me stuff

2259
01:21:56,870 --> 01:21:54,880
because they

2260
01:21:58,390 --> 01:21:56,880
had it you know taking up space in their

2261
01:22:01,030 --> 01:21:58,400
house well anyway

2262
01:22:03,110 --> 01:22:01,040
none of that was needed and i was

2263
01:22:05,110 --> 01:22:03,120
perfectly okay with that like that fear

2264
01:22:07,189 --> 01:22:05,120
wasn't holding on to me anymore and then

2265
01:22:09,590 --> 01:22:07,199
sure enough i get a call

2266
01:22:11,590 --> 01:22:09,600
this was like two three months later

2267
01:22:13,669 --> 01:22:11,600
that eventually they got caught

2268
01:22:15,590 --> 01:22:13,679
because they had stolen enough things

2269
01:22:16,950 --> 01:22:15,600
and enough weapons from different people

2270
01:22:18,950 --> 01:22:16,960
to where now it became a

2271
01:22:19,990 --> 01:22:18,960
federal matter and then the fbi was

2272
01:22:22,470 --> 01:22:20,000
after them

2273
01:22:23,270 --> 01:22:22,480
you know and and found them you know and

2274
01:22:25,110 --> 01:22:23,280
um

2275
01:22:27,110 --> 01:22:25,120
uh do you want to know the very funny

2276
01:22:30,550 --> 01:22:27,120
part about that is that i've actually

2277
01:22:32,870 --> 01:22:30,560
met them and here's how prior to

2278
01:22:34,070 --> 01:22:32,880
their arrest maybe about a week or two

2279
01:22:35,830 --> 01:22:34,080
before i found out that they were

2280
01:22:38,709 --> 01:22:35,840
arrested i was driving

2281
01:22:40,550 --> 01:22:38,719
and i always stop by whoever needs help

2282
01:22:41,350 --> 01:22:40,560
if i can give them a ride i give them a

2283
01:22:44,950 --> 01:22:41,360
ride if they

2284
01:22:47,750 --> 01:22:44,960
need some gas i always had about a um

2285
01:22:49,590 --> 01:22:47,760
a two gallon jug of gas in my trunk

2286
01:22:51,110 --> 01:22:49,600
because i always run low and that you

2287
01:22:53,430 --> 01:22:51,120
know i'll have something to

2288
01:22:54,550 --> 01:22:53,440
fill it back up well they were on the

2289
01:22:57,110 --> 01:22:54,560
side of the road

2290
01:22:58,390 --> 01:22:57,120
pulled over and it looked like they had

2291
01:23:00,629 --> 01:22:58,400
you know that they were out of gas

2292
01:23:02,709 --> 01:23:00,639
and sure enough then i saw a guy you

2293
01:23:05,110 --> 01:23:02,719
know basically holding on a sign

2294
01:23:06,870 --> 01:23:05,120
and so i stopped i went up there and i

2295
01:23:08,149 --> 01:23:06,880
said do you guys need gas like yes you

2296
01:23:10,950 --> 01:23:08,159
know and so there was

2297
01:23:12,390 --> 01:23:10,960
uh two guys in this girl and i wasn't

2298
01:23:13,350 --> 01:23:12,400
asking much about where they're going

2299
01:23:16,790 --> 01:23:13,360
what they're doing

2300
01:23:19,030 --> 01:23:16,800
but i gave them um you know the jug and

2301
01:23:20,070 --> 01:23:19,040
he filled it up and i was like oh pretty

2302
01:23:22,070 --> 01:23:20,080
hot today i'm

2303
01:23:23,750 --> 01:23:22,080
you know glad that you'll be able to

2304
01:23:25,110 --> 01:23:23,760
turn on the car here pretty soon

2305
01:23:26,870 --> 01:23:25,120
and you know get the air conditioning

2306
01:23:30,070 --> 01:23:26,880
and whatnot and um

2307
01:23:31,990 --> 01:23:30,080
anyway that was i actually interacted

2308
01:23:33,910 --> 01:23:32,000
with the people that had broken into my

2309
01:23:35,270 --> 01:23:33,920
place not realizing only later when they

2310
01:23:37,669 --> 01:23:35,280
were arrested

2311
01:23:38,790 --> 01:23:37,679
you know and because what they stole is

2312
01:23:40,629 --> 01:23:38,800
i had a shotgun

2313
01:23:42,629 --> 01:23:40,639
and some other stuff there but it was

2314
01:23:45,750 --> 01:23:42,639
the shotgun that was traced

2315
01:23:46,550 --> 01:23:45,760
and so um they basically were identified

2316
01:23:50,229 --> 01:23:46,560
that way

2317
01:23:52,709 --> 01:23:50,239
and i just you know there was

2318
01:23:54,709 --> 01:23:52,719
anyone that in general you could have

2319
01:23:56,550 --> 01:23:54,719
simply had that experience of just

2320
01:23:58,390 --> 01:23:56,560
have that fearful experience i got

2321
01:23:59,270 --> 01:23:58,400
broken into be the victim for the rest

2322
01:24:02,629 --> 01:23:59,280
of your life

2323
01:24:05,110 --> 01:24:02,639
or have the experience in the manner i

2324
01:24:07,430 --> 01:24:05,120
chose to have it by simply figuring

2325
01:24:10,629 --> 01:24:07,440
out what's happening why is it happening

2326
01:24:13,270 --> 01:24:10,639
and what can i do about it

2327
01:24:14,629 --> 01:24:13,280
you know what you said there's quite uh

2328
01:24:15,590 --> 01:24:14,639
you know given what's happening in my

2329
01:24:18,470 --> 01:24:15,600
life at the moment

2330
01:24:19,270 --> 01:24:18,480
it's quite the message to hear um you

2331
01:24:22,550 --> 01:24:19,280
know there's

2332
01:24:24,310 --> 01:24:22,560
yeah i i'll reflect on that because uh

2333
01:24:25,990 --> 01:24:24,320
yeah as we spoke earlier i won't make it

2334
01:24:27,270 --> 01:24:26,000
public here but i mean that's that's

2335
01:24:31,030 --> 01:24:27,280
some very wise words

2336
01:24:33,430 --> 01:24:31,040
thank you well you know i i wish it was

2337
01:24:35,430 --> 01:24:33,440
just this wisdom that was just given in

2338
01:24:37,030 --> 01:24:35,440
some way it was all stuff i had to do

2339
01:24:39,189 --> 01:24:37,040
the hard way

2340
01:24:40,310 --> 01:24:39,199
you know through a lot of uh you know

2341
01:24:43,669 --> 01:24:40,320
fear and and

2342
01:24:45,270 --> 01:24:43,679
all kinds of silliness um

2343
01:24:46,709 --> 01:24:45,280
but bradley thank you thank you for

2344
01:24:48,390 --> 01:24:46,719
sharing your story um

2345
01:24:50,310 --> 01:24:48,400
looks like my friend nathan wants to

2346
01:24:52,070 --> 01:24:50,320
come on as well so uh you know if you

2347
01:24:55,430 --> 01:24:52,080
hang around i'll get back to you

2348
01:24:58,470 --> 01:24:55,440
you know later on this you know um

2349
01:25:00,470 --> 01:24:58,480
if and when nathan and i finish up yeah

2350
01:25:01,669 --> 01:25:00,480
yeah no great thanks very much ed man no

2351
01:25:05,990 --> 01:25:01,679
thank you thank you for

2352
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:09,110
okay good dad

2353
01:25:15,350 --> 01:25:10,870
all right nathan just unmute yourself

2354
01:25:18,870 --> 01:25:17,669
yeah hey anan um no i just wanted to

2355
01:25:20,550 --> 01:25:18,880
chime in because uh

2356
01:25:22,149 --> 01:25:20,560
what you what you're saying is like i

2357
01:25:23,270 --> 01:25:22,159
feel like you hit the nail right on the

2358
01:25:25,669 --> 01:25:23,280
head how

2359
01:25:26,470 --> 01:25:25,679
humanity's gonna get through this this

2360
01:25:30,790 --> 01:25:26,480
time

2361
01:25:34,470 --> 01:25:30,800
and

2362
01:25:36,310 --> 01:25:34,480
overcoming you like it's what it is

2363
01:25:38,070 --> 01:25:36,320
they're they're they're throwing

2364
01:25:39,910 --> 01:25:38,080
everything in the kitchen sink at us to

2365
01:25:41,350 --> 01:25:39,920
be afraid of and it's really it's become

2366
01:25:42,229 --> 01:25:41,360
so obvious that those are those are the

2367
01:25:45,669 --> 01:25:42,239
chains

2368
01:25:47,750 --> 01:25:45,679
that these uh that these uh uh

2369
01:25:49,669 --> 01:25:47,760
occultists uh cabal whatever you want to

2370
01:25:51,910 --> 01:25:49,679
call them people you know use

2371
01:25:53,430 --> 01:25:51,920
to you know keep people chained down

2372
01:25:55,350 --> 01:25:53,440
basically it's fear

2373
01:25:57,030 --> 01:25:55,360
well nathan hold on one quick second

2374
01:25:57,990 --> 01:25:57,040
before you continue and for everyone

2375
01:26:00,390 --> 01:25:58,000
else watching

2376
01:26:01,750 --> 01:26:00,400
nathan is a really good friend of mine i

2377
01:26:05,910 --> 01:26:01,760
consider him one of my

2378
01:26:07,830 --> 01:26:05,920
best friends you know so he uh

2379
01:26:09,830 --> 01:26:07,840
he was all over the place i guess what

2380
01:26:11,990 --> 01:26:09,840
you were in ecuador or colombia and then

2381
01:26:14,470 --> 01:26:12,000
came back to san luis

2382
01:26:15,990 --> 01:26:14,480
yeah yeah we were in congress for a

2383
01:26:17,430 --> 01:26:16,000
couple months just got back

2384
01:26:19,750 --> 01:26:17,440
anyway so i just want to give a little

2385
01:26:20,470 --> 01:26:19,760
context there so because we just started

2386
01:26:23,350 --> 01:26:20,480
talking and

2387
01:26:24,229 --> 01:26:23,360
i realized you guys might not know um so

2388
01:26:27,350 --> 01:26:24,239
nathan i'm sorry

2389
01:26:29,430 --> 01:26:27,360
continue with what you were saying

2390
01:26:30,629 --> 01:26:29,440
okay so yeah i was just you hit the nail

2391
01:26:31,990 --> 01:26:30,639
right on the head with the

2392
01:26:33,910 --> 01:26:32,000
the getting over the fears thing and

2393
01:26:36,950 --> 01:26:33,920
then you know and kind of how it's done

2394
01:26:37,510 --> 01:26:36,960
so i mean just uh you're in that that'll

2395
01:26:40,070 --> 01:26:37,520
help

2396
01:26:42,070 --> 01:26:40,080
raise the whole vibration of first you

2397
01:26:43,669 --> 01:26:42,080
and then and then everything around you

2398
01:26:45,110 --> 01:26:43,679
and and even something you said even

2399
01:26:48,229 --> 01:26:45,120
earlier in that like

2400
01:26:49,510 --> 01:26:48,239
well like uh love attracts love

2401
01:26:51,350 --> 01:26:49,520
fear attracts fears that was that was

2402
01:26:53,830 --> 01:26:51,360
how you kind of how do you get it

2403
01:26:54,709 --> 01:26:53,840
yeah so so let's just put more love out

2404
01:26:55,830 --> 01:26:54,719
there get our

2405
01:26:57,910 --> 01:26:55,840
and stop being afraid of all this

2406
01:26:58,390 --> 01:26:57,920
ridiculous stuff like i mean it's just

2407
01:27:01,510 --> 01:26:58,400
gotten

2408
01:27:04,149 --> 01:27:01,520
preposterous and uh and

2409
01:27:04,870 --> 01:27:04,159
and that'll help that's i mean is that a

2410
01:27:07,910 --> 01:27:04,880
network

2411
01:27:08,629 --> 01:27:07,920
right well you know um it doesn't always

2412
01:27:12,790 --> 01:27:08,639
have to be

2413
01:27:15,510 --> 01:27:12,800
you know um i think what a lot of us

2414
01:27:16,629 --> 01:27:15,520
you know don't don't dare to do is just

2415
01:27:19,910 --> 01:27:16,639
kind of

2416
01:27:22,149 --> 01:27:19,920
live in our own in our own way because

2417
01:27:23,990 --> 01:27:22,159
a lot of times when when something comes

2418
01:27:25,189 --> 01:27:24,000
down the pike to where everyone in the

2419
01:27:28,870 --> 01:27:25,199
group has to follow

2420
01:27:31,910 --> 01:27:28,880
um everyone else kind of falls in line

2421
01:27:33,030 --> 01:27:31,920
and uh the thing is it's everything

2422
01:27:35,590 --> 01:27:33,040
should also be done

2423
01:27:36,790 --> 01:27:35,600
in a very reasonable way meaning what

2424
01:27:40,229 --> 01:27:36,800
i'm about to do

2425
01:27:41,430 --> 01:27:40,239
is this going you know against possibly

2426
01:27:43,510 --> 01:27:41,440
someone else's

2427
01:27:45,030 --> 01:27:43,520
well-being you know or is this just

2428
01:27:48,310 --> 01:27:45,040
something that'll affect me

2429
01:27:49,110 --> 01:27:48,320
right and so one of the things that i've

2430
01:27:51,990 --> 01:27:49,120
noticed when

2431
01:27:53,830 --> 01:27:52,000
any everything started and just uh not

2432
01:27:55,030 --> 01:27:53,840
not that i was planning to get into this

2433
01:27:57,189 --> 01:27:55,040
conversation but hey

2434
01:27:58,629 --> 01:27:57,199
you know the channel is it's open lines

2435
01:27:59,750 --> 01:27:58,639
for whatever else you would like to

2436
01:28:02,870 --> 01:27:59,760
discuss

2437
01:28:04,310 --> 01:28:02,880
you know um whether

2438
01:28:06,390 --> 01:28:04,320
you know and i was thinking about maybe

2439
01:28:07,990 --> 01:28:06,400
putting out a video with just this

2440
01:28:09,830 --> 01:28:08,000
focused message about this

2441
01:28:12,629 --> 01:28:09,840
because it's um you know something

2442
01:28:14,950 --> 01:28:12,639
that's been weighing heavily on my mind

2443
01:28:16,149 --> 01:28:14,960
you know us being involved in this field

2444
01:28:19,350 --> 01:28:16,159
with of ufos

2445
01:28:21,750 --> 01:28:19,360
and dealing with with the government and

2446
01:28:23,189 --> 01:28:21,760
them never being honest with us and and

2447
01:28:25,750 --> 01:28:23,199
all the things that are

2448
01:28:26,310 --> 01:28:25,760
out there that some people still depend

2449
01:28:29,669 --> 01:28:26,320
on

2450
01:28:31,430 --> 01:28:29,679
tell them about ufos

2451
01:28:32,709 --> 01:28:31,440
but always had this mistrusting

2452
01:28:35,830 --> 01:28:32,719
relationship right

2453
01:28:38,390 --> 01:28:35,840
but so then when 911 came around our

2454
01:28:39,189 --> 01:28:38,400
mindsets was looking at 911 entirely

2455
01:28:41,270 --> 01:28:39,199
differently than

2456
01:28:43,350 --> 01:28:41,280
a person watching it through cnn or

2457
01:28:45,910 --> 01:28:43,360
msnbc and everything else

2458
01:28:47,990 --> 01:28:45,920
and then when the epidemic hit or again

2459
01:28:50,149 --> 01:28:48,000
we're looking at everything differently

2460
01:28:51,750 --> 01:28:50,159
than everyone else that's quote unquote

2461
01:28:54,470 --> 01:28:51,760
normal would look at

2462
01:28:56,709 --> 01:28:54,480
you know and so there's all these things

2463
01:28:58,390 --> 01:28:56,719
that then we would ask to say well why

2464
01:29:00,310 --> 01:28:58,400
aren't you considering this regarding

2465
01:29:01,750 --> 01:29:00,320
that subject i want you considering that

2466
01:29:04,310 --> 01:29:01,760
regarding this subject

2467
01:29:05,669 --> 01:29:04,320
you know to where the mainstream mindset

2468
01:29:07,350 --> 01:29:05,679
would just be like well

2469
01:29:09,030 --> 01:29:07,360
i don't know i just that's what they

2470
01:29:11,430 --> 01:29:09,040
said so i'll just do it

2471
01:29:12,070 --> 01:29:11,440
but our thinking or level of thinking is

2472
01:29:15,430 --> 01:29:12,080
like

2473
01:29:17,750 --> 01:29:15,440
two three levels deep you know and it's

2474
01:29:18,790 --> 01:29:17,760
it's one of these things to where if you

2475
01:29:20,470 --> 01:29:18,800
understand that

2476
01:29:22,709 --> 01:29:20,480
and there's an opposite point of view

2477
01:29:24,310 --> 01:29:22,719
that you have try to show it by just

2478
01:29:26,550 --> 01:29:24,320
simply living it right

2479
01:29:28,470 --> 01:29:26,560
because um you know when when it comes

2480
01:29:30,709 --> 01:29:28,480
to sharing stories about ufos

2481
01:29:32,629 --> 01:29:30,719
i would just you know share them without

2482
01:29:34,550 --> 01:29:32,639
any fear of repercussions

2483
01:29:36,310 --> 01:29:34,560
you know when it comes to you know

2484
01:29:37,830 --> 01:29:36,320
talking about the pandemic i would just

2485
01:29:39,590 --> 01:29:37,840
talk about it without any fear of

2486
01:29:40,470 --> 01:29:39,600
repercussions and a lot of times it

2487
01:29:42,229 --> 01:29:40,480
would get me

2488
01:29:43,750 --> 01:29:42,239
you know in in these situations with

2489
01:29:44,629 --> 01:29:43,760
people to where they want to argue with

2490
01:29:47,270 --> 01:29:44,639
me about it

2491
01:29:49,110 --> 01:29:47,280
and so i simply broke it down and this

2492
01:29:50,870 --> 01:29:49,120
one particular conversation was

2493
01:29:52,709 --> 01:29:50,880
they were saying this is the only thing

2494
01:29:54,470 --> 01:29:52,719
you need to know about the pandemic

2495
01:29:55,910 --> 01:29:54,480
i said well hold on a minute when you go

2496
01:29:57,990 --> 01:29:55,920
to a doctor and they

2497
01:29:59,590 --> 01:29:58,000
analyze you or and and discover

2498
01:30:01,830 --> 01:29:59,600
something you go to

2499
01:30:02,790 --> 01:30:01,840
another doctor get a second opinion you

2500
01:30:05,030 --> 01:30:02,800
know to

2501
01:30:06,950 --> 01:30:05,040
sometimes even third or fourth opinion

2502
01:30:08,709 --> 01:30:06,960
before you can make up the mind and say

2503
01:30:09,270 --> 01:30:08,719
okay this is what i want regarding my

2504
01:30:11,590 --> 01:30:09,280
health

2505
01:30:12,550 --> 01:30:11,600
well for some reason this narrative was

2506
01:30:14,390 --> 01:30:12,560
allowed

2507
01:30:16,070 --> 01:30:14,400
you know when it comes to epidemic but

2508
01:30:18,550 --> 01:30:16,080
this narrative was not

2509
01:30:19,990 --> 01:30:18,560
and believe me this direction there's a

2510
01:30:23,110 --> 01:30:20,000
lot to look into that most

2511
01:30:24,390 --> 01:30:23,120
people don't know you know and um uh i

2512
01:30:27,110 --> 01:30:24,400
just basically started

2513
01:30:27,830 --> 01:30:27,120
living and moving around in my life

2514
01:30:29,590 --> 01:30:27,840
according to

2515
01:30:31,030 --> 01:30:29,600
this information that i that i

2516
01:30:33,350 --> 01:30:31,040
understood and knew

2517
01:30:34,390 --> 01:30:33,360
you know that were given by thousands of

2518
01:30:36,390 --> 01:30:34,400
other doctors

2519
01:30:38,310 --> 01:30:36,400
that are available at your fingertips

2520
01:30:40,070 --> 01:30:38,320
you know to be researched to

2521
01:30:41,750 --> 01:30:40,080
be looked up to look up their

2522
01:30:42,470 --> 01:30:41,760
credentials and what it is that they're

2523
01:30:43,990 --> 01:30:42,480
saying

2524
01:30:45,510 --> 01:30:44,000
and the fact that they weren't allowed

2525
01:30:48,070 --> 01:30:45,520
to speak spoke

2526
01:30:48,790 --> 01:30:48,080
loudly then you know than everything

2527
01:30:51,270 --> 01:30:48,800
else

2528
01:30:53,270 --> 01:30:51,280
because never in our in our history you

2529
01:30:55,189 --> 01:30:53,280
know would you think that the world has

2530
01:30:56,070 --> 01:30:55,199
a problem but you can only look at it in

2531
01:30:57,830 --> 01:30:56,080
one way

2532
01:30:59,669 --> 01:30:57,840
you know it's like you know having

2533
01:31:01,350 --> 01:30:59,679
having a coin you know but you can only

2534
01:31:07,830 --> 01:31:01,360
look at one side and that just didn't

2535
01:31:13,350 --> 01:31:11,990
yeah that's right

2536
01:31:15,110 --> 01:31:13,360
sorry i didn't mean to put you on the

2537
01:31:16,390 --> 01:31:15,120
spot i just kind of finished my train of

2538
01:31:18,470 --> 01:31:16,400
thought and i thought you were going to

2539
01:31:20,390 --> 01:31:18,480
add something to that

2540
01:31:21,510 --> 01:31:20,400
yeah no no you're right it's been it's

2541
01:31:23,270 --> 01:31:21,520
been weighing heavy on my

2542
01:31:24,310 --> 01:31:23,280
on my mind too and actually you put

2543
01:31:25,669 --> 01:31:24,320
you've helped me put some things into

2544
01:31:28,550 --> 01:31:25,679
perspective so

2545
01:31:30,790 --> 01:31:28,560
it's uh um and this is this is it this

2546
01:31:32,550 --> 01:31:30,800
is uh this is the this

2547
01:31:34,149 --> 01:31:32,560
i mean yeah you gotta you gotta just

2548
01:31:35,990 --> 01:31:34,159
talk with everybody openly and

2549
01:31:37,270 --> 01:31:36,000
and freely without fear and that's

2550
01:31:39,510 --> 01:31:37,280
that's a big step but then

2551
01:31:40,870 --> 01:31:39,520
but like platforms like this is or is

2552
01:31:42,790 --> 01:31:40,880
fantastic what you're doing and not as

2553
01:31:44,149 --> 01:31:42,800
fantastic were you how you got

2554
01:31:45,830 --> 01:31:44,159
how you got here you're sharing your

2555
01:31:48,229 --> 01:31:45,840
stories uh

2556
01:31:49,030 --> 01:31:48,239
thank you appreciate it yeah it's all

2557
01:31:51,030 --> 01:31:49,040
fantastic

2558
01:31:52,070 --> 01:31:51,040
well hey do tell me while i have you on

2559
01:31:54,390 --> 01:31:52,080
um you know because

2560
01:31:56,229 --> 01:31:54,400
some of you that are watching like i

2561
01:31:56,550 --> 01:31:56,239
mentioned i know nathan from san luis

2562
01:31:58,790 --> 01:31:56,560
and

2563
01:31:59,830 --> 01:31:58,800
we were going to different meetings ufo

2564
01:32:01,750 --> 01:31:59,840
meetings uh

2565
01:32:03,030 --> 01:32:01,760
there would be what two three a week i

2566
01:32:04,390 --> 01:32:03,040
mean not a week a month

2567
01:32:06,070 --> 01:32:04,400
that we would go to because there's the

2568
01:32:07,750 --> 01:32:06,080
coasties there's the

2569
01:32:09,510 --> 01:32:07,760
mufa meetings and all these different

2570
01:32:11,750 --> 01:32:09,520
ones that we would always attend

2571
01:32:13,430 --> 01:32:11,760
have you been attending any of them or

2572
01:32:15,990 --> 01:32:13,440
what's it looking like in san luis right

2573
01:32:20,790 --> 01:32:19,189
uh well in st louis i mean uh

2574
01:32:22,149 --> 01:32:20,800
i think it keeps going back and forth

2575
01:32:22,950 --> 01:32:22,159
right now everything's kind of you're

2576
01:32:25,990 --> 01:32:22,960
not a lot of meat

2577
01:32:27,189 --> 01:32:26,000
you know i've been allowed to um not a

2578
01:32:29,590 --> 01:32:27,199
lot of really

2579
01:32:31,189 --> 01:32:29,600
i guess it depends on where you are you

2580
01:32:32,070 --> 01:32:31,199
know but uh no the meetings i haven't

2581
01:32:34,470 --> 01:32:32,080
been to any of those

2582
01:32:35,750 --> 01:32:34,480
in quite a while okay like the ones

2583
01:32:38,629 --> 01:32:35,760
you're talking about though

2584
01:32:40,550 --> 01:32:38,639
right well i was i was reaching out to

2585
01:32:41,669 --> 01:32:40,560
some of the organizers of those meetings

2586
01:32:43,270 --> 01:32:41,679
and i told them hey

2587
01:32:44,950 --> 01:32:43,280
you know i have these wednesday nights

2588
01:32:45,830 --> 01:32:44,960
open lines so if they would like to

2589
01:32:48,709 --> 01:32:45,840
attend

2590
01:32:49,189 --> 01:32:48,719
and and meet up online in a way and

2591
01:32:51,270 --> 01:32:49,199
share

2592
01:32:53,350 --> 01:32:51,280
over over their phone using using

2593
01:32:56,870 --> 01:32:53,360
telegram that would be an option

2594
01:32:59,350 --> 01:32:56,880
you know um i guess you know because i

2595
01:33:02,229 --> 01:32:59,360
know coasties wasn't meeting anymore

2596
01:33:05,189 --> 01:33:02,239
and uh or at least they're they're going

2597
01:33:06,950 --> 01:33:05,199
to hopefully soon but we'll see

2598
01:33:08,390 --> 01:33:06,960
okay so yeah yeah in lieu of a physical

2599
01:33:09,830 --> 01:33:08,400
meeting place that this works

2600
01:33:11,830 --> 01:33:09,840
this works great so you actually talk to

2601
01:33:12,629 --> 01:33:11,840
a couple of the the organizers like ray

2602
01:33:14,470 --> 01:33:12,639
and stuff or rate

2603
01:33:16,709 --> 01:33:14,480
or ray's not around anymore is he no rey

2604
01:33:19,350 --> 01:33:16,719
is not uh but ginger is

2605
01:33:19,990 --> 01:33:19,360
uh and uh yep i talked to her because

2606
01:33:24,310 --> 01:33:20,000
she's the

2607
01:33:27,910 --> 01:33:24,320
watching that are possible

2608
01:33:29,750 --> 01:33:27,920
living in san luis she

2609
01:33:31,030 --> 01:33:29,760
helped me out was it the bowling alley

2610
01:33:34,470 --> 01:33:31,040
on watson

2611
01:33:36,149 --> 01:33:34,480
um yes nathan okay so for those of you

2612
01:33:38,149 --> 01:33:36,159
living in san luis the bowling

2613
01:33:39,669 --> 01:33:38,159
alley sunset i believe is called on

2614
01:33:41,669 --> 01:33:39,679
watson

2615
01:33:42,870 --> 01:33:41,679
once a month i believe it was the first

2616
01:33:45,350 --> 01:33:42,880
monday

2617
01:33:47,590 --> 01:33:45,360
a month they would meet and basically

2618
01:33:49,590 --> 01:33:47,600
discuss any subjects that were discussed

2619
01:33:49,990 --> 01:33:49,600
on coast to coast or are generally

2620
01:33:52,790 --> 01:33:50,000
discussed

2621
01:33:53,590 --> 01:33:52,800
on coast to coast and so usually a lot

2622
01:33:55,669 --> 01:33:53,600
of people

2623
01:33:57,910 --> 01:33:55,679
go there and attend and then there's

2624
01:34:00,629 --> 01:33:57,920
some other meetings i think second

2625
01:34:02,390 --> 01:34:00,639
monday of the month is or third monday

2626
01:34:04,950 --> 01:34:02,400
of the month is mufon

2627
01:34:05,910 --> 01:34:04,960
which is in webster groves so i

2628
01:34:07,750 --> 01:34:05,920
apologize for

2629
01:34:09,830 --> 01:34:07,760
any of you that don't live anywhere

2630
01:34:10,149 --> 01:34:09,840
close to there and that makes no sense

2631
01:34:12,310 --> 01:34:10,159
but

2632
01:34:14,149 --> 01:34:12,320
at least hey we got this platform right

2633
01:34:18,310 --> 01:34:14,159
now to just discuss and chat

2634
01:34:21,270 --> 01:34:18,320
about whatever it is on our mind

2635
01:34:23,030 --> 01:34:21,280
so um yeah nathan do you uh would you

2636
01:34:24,629 --> 01:34:23,040
like to share some of your uh your

2637
01:34:25,270 --> 01:34:24,639
stories that i know you have out there

2638
01:34:27,990 --> 01:34:25,280
or uh

2639
01:34:29,270 --> 01:34:28,000
maybe some other time i don't want to

2640
01:34:32,470 --> 01:34:29,280
put you on the spot

2641
01:34:33,510 --> 01:34:32,480
okay uh because there were several

2642
01:34:35,030 --> 01:34:33,520
things i wanted to share when you guys

2643
01:34:36,629 --> 01:34:35,040
were talking about and then and then we

2644
01:34:39,750 --> 01:34:36,639
just kept going and going and

2645
01:34:41,109 --> 01:34:39,760
i lost track so i'll uh i'll make drop

2646
01:34:41,590 --> 01:34:41,119
some things down in the next maybe next

2647
01:34:44,310 --> 01:34:41,600
week

2648
01:34:46,070 --> 01:34:44,320
i'll share some stories right all right

2649
01:34:46,870 --> 01:34:46,080
well you you know you know you're always

2650
01:34:48,629 --> 01:34:46,880
welcome and

2651
01:34:50,470 --> 01:34:48,639
yeah this is what the first time i've

2652
01:34:51,189 --> 01:34:50,480
actually talked to you i know we texted

2653
01:34:54,629 --> 01:34:51,199
but

2654
01:34:55,910 --> 01:34:54,639
man it's been years since i've seen you

2655
01:34:57,990 --> 01:34:55,920
when was the last time i've seen you

2656
01:35:01,430 --> 01:34:58,000
since the wedding

2657
01:35:04,070 --> 01:35:01,440
oh my gosh yeah i think so yeah no no

2658
01:35:05,750 --> 01:35:04,080
we saw him we saw you one other time oh

2659
01:35:06,870 --> 01:35:05,760
oh wait there's somebody else on the

2660
01:35:10,310 --> 01:35:06,880
line

2661
01:35:11,669 --> 01:35:10,320
yes my wife is here yeah hello hi how

2662
01:35:14,070 --> 01:35:11,679
are you

2663
01:35:15,669 --> 01:35:14,080
i'm good just listen to your interviews

2664
01:35:18,709 --> 01:35:15,679
very interesting

2665
01:35:21,669 --> 01:35:18,719
all right but that's cool i um i'm

2666
01:35:22,790 --> 01:35:21,679
jessica right uh i was um it cracks me

2667
01:35:24,550 --> 01:35:22,800
up every time because

2668
01:35:28,390 --> 01:35:24,560
every time you see me like you look like

2669
01:35:30,950 --> 01:35:28,400
my uncle

2670
01:35:32,229 --> 01:35:30,960
like like they say like uh they can are

2671
01:35:35,430 --> 01:35:32,239
like twins

2672
01:35:36,470 --> 01:35:35,440
or person that look very similar to two

2673
01:35:39,350 --> 01:35:36,480
other person

2674
01:35:40,550 --> 01:35:39,360
in in the planet i say my my uncle and

2675
01:35:43,910 --> 01:35:40,560
you are

2676
01:35:45,830 --> 01:35:43,920
oh wow you played the same well that's

2677
01:35:47,030 --> 01:35:45,840
good to know that i have a doppelganger

2678
01:35:49,830 --> 01:35:47,040
there somewhere

2679
01:35:54,950 --> 01:35:49,840
right yeah well good to hear from you as

2680
01:35:58,070 --> 01:35:56,950
oh i don't know if that i'm pretty sure

2681
01:36:01,030 --> 01:35:58,080
they're still there

2682
01:36:02,470 --> 01:36:01,040
so anyway uh any of you watching um join

2683
01:36:04,870 --> 01:36:02,480
us on on telegram

2684
01:36:06,550 --> 01:36:04,880
uh simply download the app on your phone

2685
01:36:08,870 --> 01:36:06,560
or on the computer

2686
01:36:10,310 --> 01:36:08,880
and you can set up an account using your

2687
01:36:12,629 --> 01:36:10,320
phone or an email

2688
01:36:14,709 --> 01:36:12,639
and once you have done that search for

2689
01:36:15,510 --> 01:36:14,719
ufo hub and you should be able to find

2690
01:36:19,590 --> 01:36:15,520
this group

2691
01:36:19,990 --> 01:36:19,600
and then um you can just join the voice

2692
01:36:23,990 --> 01:36:20,000
chat

2693
01:36:27,030 --> 01:36:24,000
and be part of part of it and um

2694
01:36:28,550 --> 01:36:27,040
um so anyway welcome to

2695
01:36:30,229 --> 01:36:28,560
chat with anyone else that's already

2696
01:36:32,790 --> 01:36:30,239
chatting in the in the

2697
01:36:34,229 --> 01:36:32,800
uh youtube uh chat i don't know what's

2698
01:36:36,390 --> 01:36:34,239
been going on there i just know it's

2699
01:36:39,430 --> 01:36:36,400
just been going up and down

2700
01:36:41,189 --> 01:36:39,440
but um uh well nathan let me let me

2701
01:36:43,350 --> 01:36:41,199
bring uh uh bradley in and

2702
01:36:44,390 --> 01:36:43,360
and uh you know unless there's something

2703
01:36:47,590 --> 01:36:44,400
else you would like to

2704
01:36:49,750 --> 01:36:47,600
do to say no go ahead

2705
01:36:51,430 --> 01:36:49,760
okay nice to hear look yeah good to hear

2706
01:36:53,830 --> 01:36:51,440
from both of you we should actually

2707
01:36:55,510 --> 01:36:53,840
talk one of these days like awful

2708
01:37:00,470 --> 01:36:55,520
offline

2709
01:37:04,709 --> 01:37:00,480
i agree okay okey-dokey

2710
01:37:10,870 --> 01:37:07,750
okay bradley uh you're unmuted and uh

2711
01:37:13,109 --> 01:37:10,880
go on whenever you're ready yeah

2712
01:37:13,990 --> 01:37:13,119
just listening to nathan there it's not

2713
01:37:16,229 --> 01:37:14,000
a long thing

2714
01:37:17,990 --> 01:37:16,239
just uh you know he's talking about the

2715
01:37:19,990 --> 01:37:18,000
pandemic and how you know we're all

2716
01:37:21,910 --> 01:37:20,000
being fit a bunch of uh

2717
01:37:21,910 --> 01:37:24,629
uh i've always had to swig can i say

2718
01:37:29,910 --> 01:37:27,750
yeah you definitely can you know

2719
01:37:30,950 --> 01:37:29,920
uh just just from a south african

2720
01:37:33,189 --> 01:37:30,960
perspective

2721
01:37:34,310 --> 01:37:33,199
uh in you know this country is really

2722
01:37:37,189 --> 01:37:34,320
riddled with uh

2723
01:37:37,750 --> 01:37:37,199
a very bad past and a lot of tensions

2724
01:37:39,830 --> 01:37:37,760
and

2725
01:37:42,310 --> 01:37:39,840
you know that still exists today not as

2726
01:37:44,550 --> 01:37:42,320
bad but i mean it's still there

2727
01:37:46,470 --> 01:37:44,560
and just just to be positive i mean

2728
01:37:48,070 --> 01:37:46,480
during the pandemic i've seen people

2729
01:37:50,870 --> 01:37:48,080
come together in a way i've never

2730
01:37:52,229 --> 01:37:50,880
seen before don't get me wrong the

2731
01:37:55,270 --> 01:37:52,239
problems are not solved

2732
01:37:57,669 --> 01:37:55,280
but you know if when people just put

2733
01:37:59,910 --> 01:37:57,679
aside all the rubbish and actually just

2734
01:38:00,790 --> 01:37:59,920
really help each other that's really you

2735
01:38:03,750 --> 01:38:00,800
know that's where

2736
01:38:04,310 --> 01:38:03,760
things are going here which is great um

2737
01:38:06,950 --> 01:38:04,320
you know

2738
01:38:07,590 --> 01:38:06,960
we had a lady here help another family

2739
01:38:08,950 --> 01:38:07,600
who

2740
01:38:10,470 --> 01:38:08,960
you know couldn't afford food because

2741
01:38:11,350 --> 01:38:10,480
they didn't have a job because of this

2742
01:38:14,629 --> 01:38:11,360
pandemic

2743
01:38:16,470 --> 01:38:14,639
and you know she took i think just to

2744
01:38:18,390 --> 01:38:16,480
put a value to it she took about

2745
01:38:19,510 --> 01:38:18,400
what was it five to ten thousand ran

2746
01:38:22,229 --> 01:38:19,520
which is about

2747
01:38:23,430 --> 01:38:22,239
eight hundred dollars and just went and

2748
01:38:26,310 --> 01:38:23,440
took them shopping

2749
01:38:28,310 --> 01:38:26,320
i mean it's been fantastic so anyway i

2750
01:38:29,830 --> 01:38:28,320
had to chime that in because yeah i

2751
01:38:31,270 --> 01:38:29,840
totally agree with what nathan's saying

2752
01:38:33,430 --> 01:38:31,280
there

2753
01:38:35,990 --> 01:38:33,440
well you know it's you know i'm really

2754
01:38:37,830 --> 01:38:36,000
glad i'm glad and very happy to to know

2755
01:38:40,950 --> 01:38:37,840
that that had occurred at least

2756
01:38:43,109 --> 01:38:40,960
where you are it's just unfortunate that

2757
01:38:45,270 --> 01:38:43,119
i don't know i don't know i guess if the

2758
01:38:46,870 --> 01:38:45,280
whole world is watching via news

2759
01:38:49,030 --> 01:38:46,880
what what's been happening in the united

2760
01:38:49,669 --> 01:38:49,040
states but it's done the opposite you

2761
01:38:51,189 --> 01:38:49,679
know

2762
01:38:53,109 --> 01:38:51,199
at least in the past there were always

2763
01:38:56,070 --> 01:38:53,119
events that could unite us

2764
01:38:57,350 --> 01:38:56,080
you know but uh this pandemic and and

2765
01:38:59,430 --> 01:38:57,360
politics have

2766
01:39:01,510 --> 01:38:59,440
literally divided brother against

2767
01:39:04,629 --> 01:39:01,520
brother friend against friend

2768
01:39:09,910 --> 01:39:04,639
you know and and this is you know

2769
01:39:11,430 --> 01:39:09,920
years and years of of um you know

2770
01:39:13,990 --> 01:39:11,440
decades-long friendships and

2771
01:39:17,109 --> 01:39:14,000
relationships that are just basically

2772
01:39:20,550 --> 01:39:17,119
on the verge of being fully broken apart

2773
01:39:21,590 --> 01:39:20,560
or or you know have already separated

2774
01:39:23,350 --> 01:39:21,600
long time ago

2775
01:39:24,709 --> 01:39:23,360
you know it's it literally separated

2776
01:39:27,109 --> 01:39:24,719
itself between

2777
01:39:27,910 --> 01:39:27,119
you know those with mass and no mass

2778
01:39:29,590 --> 01:39:27,920
those who

2779
01:39:31,590 --> 01:39:29,600
want to get vaccinated those that don't

2780
01:39:33,669 --> 01:39:31,600
want to get vaccinated those are

2781
01:39:35,350 --> 01:39:33,679
those that are for republicans those

2782
01:39:36,790 --> 01:39:35,360
that are for democrats

2783
01:39:39,030 --> 01:39:36,800
and it's just been going all these

2784
01:39:41,430 --> 01:39:39,040
directions and um

2785
01:39:43,109 --> 01:39:41,440
it's you know it's always it's it would

2786
01:39:45,189 --> 01:39:43,119
be nice to find something

2787
01:39:47,030 --> 01:39:45,199
a unifying factor you know because

2788
01:39:47,910 --> 01:39:47,040
initially when the epidemic started it

2789
01:39:49,990 --> 01:39:47,920
was all about

2790
01:39:51,510 --> 01:39:50,000
wow what can i do as a human being to

2791
01:39:53,109 --> 01:39:51,520
help my fellow man

2792
01:39:54,870 --> 01:39:53,119
you know my fellow neighbors you know

2793
01:39:57,189 --> 01:39:54,880
whatever can be possible

2794
01:39:59,109 --> 01:39:57,199
but i guess we've all allowed the news

2795
01:40:02,070 --> 01:39:59,119
here in the united states to then

2796
01:40:03,030 --> 01:40:02,080
start giving us a separate narrative to

2797
01:40:04,950 --> 01:40:03,040
where now

2798
01:40:07,350 --> 01:40:04,960
we can literally be living next to each

2799
01:40:09,189 --> 01:40:07,360
other you know and then you have someone

2800
01:40:10,709 --> 01:40:09,199
else that's hundreds of miles away

2801
01:40:12,310 --> 01:40:10,719
via news giving you different

2802
01:40:13,910 --> 01:40:12,320
information that now makes you think

2803
01:40:15,750 --> 01:40:13,920
about that person differently

2804
01:40:17,030 --> 01:40:15,760
instead of going up to them and saying

2805
01:40:19,590 --> 01:40:17,040
hey brother how are you

2806
01:40:21,189 --> 01:40:19,600
what can i do can we help each other or

2807
01:40:23,750 --> 01:40:21,199
or whatever or

2808
01:40:25,590 --> 01:40:23,760
just to say no that you can depend on me

2809
01:40:26,390 --> 01:40:25,600
you know that now was not possible

2810
01:40:29,590 --> 01:40:26,400
because

2811
01:40:30,390 --> 01:40:29,600
um it was it was a perfect signal it was

2812
01:40:33,189 --> 01:40:30,400
this perfect

2813
01:40:35,189 --> 01:40:33,199
example how so many people say oh i

2814
01:40:35,990 --> 01:40:35,199
don't watch the news that's all rubbish

2815
01:40:38,629 --> 01:40:36,000
and blah blah

2816
01:40:39,910 --> 01:40:38,639
blah but yet the exact act exactly as

2817
01:40:43,350 --> 01:40:39,920
the news tells them to

2818
01:40:45,109 --> 01:40:43,360
to act you know and and follow

2819
01:40:47,189 --> 01:40:45,119
you know almost verbatim what they're

2820
01:40:49,830 --> 01:40:47,199
being told and so

2821
01:40:52,149 --> 01:40:49,840
um i always i always had thought that

2822
01:40:53,830 --> 01:40:52,159
when i first got into this ufo subject

2823
01:40:56,149 --> 01:40:53,840
that i always thought it would be

2824
01:40:58,149 --> 01:40:56,159
this divide would happen between the

2825
01:41:00,550 --> 01:40:58,159
people that believe

2826
01:41:02,950 --> 01:41:00,560
that there's more more out there like

2827
01:41:04,149 --> 01:41:02,960
ufos aliens and the spiritual level and

2828
01:41:06,709 --> 01:41:04,159
those that don't

2829
01:41:08,870 --> 01:41:06,719
you know and i always thought that well

2830
01:41:11,030 --> 01:41:08,880
well one way to remedy that is

2831
01:41:12,390 --> 01:41:11,040
well eventually if we make contact

2832
01:41:14,470 --> 01:41:12,400
they're gonna land and

2833
01:41:16,550 --> 01:41:14,480
my fellow brothers and sisters are gonna

2834
01:41:18,070 --> 01:41:16,560
see that so they know i wasn't i wasn't

2835
01:41:20,310 --> 01:41:18,080
crazy and i was telling them

2836
01:41:21,430 --> 01:41:20,320
what some of us had already experienced

2837
01:41:22,870 --> 01:41:21,440
ahead of time right

2838
01:41:25,590 --> 01:41:22,880
so i thought that that would be the

2839
01:41:27,350 --> 01:41:25,600
dividing factor never did i think that

2840
01:41:28,870 --> 01:41:27,360
it would be something like this to where

2841
01:41:30,310 --> 01:41:28,880
it divides us to where

2842
01:41:32,149 --> 01:41:30,320
it's very difficult to come back

2843
01:41:35,270 --> 01:41:32,159
together because

2844
01:41:36,950 --> 01:41:35,280
you know it you know

2845
01:41:39,030 --> 01:41:36,960
again like i was mentioned earlier i

2846
01:41:42,390 --> 01:41:39,040
just don't know what what could be

2847
01:41:44,390 --> 01:41:42,400
possibly what can be said to bring

2848
01:41:47,910 --> 01:41:44,400
people together because

2849
01:41:50,149 --> 01:41:47,920
i love them regardless you know but the

2850
01:41:53,189 --> 01:41:50,159
thing is

2851
01:41:53,510 --> 01:41:53,199
i often found that there is the way they

2852
01:41:56,070 --> 01:41:53,520
live

2853
01:41:58,390 --> 01:41:56,080
and what they're requiring of me is that

2854
01:42:00,550 --> 01:41:58,400
there is no space for me there

2855
01:42:01,750 --> 01:42:00,560
but where i'm at there's plenty of space

2856
01:42:04,709 --> 01:42:01,760
for them here

2857
01:42:06,070 --> 01:42:04,719
you know and the way i like to see the

2858
01:42:09,109 --> 01:42:06,080
world and go about

2859
01:42:10,229 --> 01:42:09,119
the world and so anyway i just want to

2860
01:42:12,149 --> 01:42:10,239
get that out there i

2861
01:42:13,430 --> 01:42:12,159
just don't you know i'm glad to hear

2862
01:42:16,070 --> 01:42:13,440
that something like that

2863
01:42:17,830 --> 01:42:16,080
was happening you know at least in in

2864
01:42:19,510 --> 01:42:17,840
south africa i'm sure everywhere else

2865
01:42:22,070 --> 01:42:19,520
but it was

2866
01:42:23,350 --> 01:42:22,080
we hardly saw any of that in the united

2867
01:42:26,629 --> 01:42:23,360
states because it was very

2868
01:42:28,709 --> 01:42:26,639
divisive from the get-go yeah

2869
01:42:29,990 --> 01:42:28,719
i mean uh again i'll tell you from a

2870
01:42:33,270 --> 01:42:30,000
personal perspective

2871
01:42:36,310 --> 01:42:33,280
i moved to cities in literally

2872
01:42:37,830 --> 01:42:36,320
the day of lockdown and um

2873
01:42:39,750 --> 01:42:37,840
you know when i got here there was no

2874
01:42:40,790 --> 01:42:39,760
furniture or anything and the community

2875
01:42:43,510 --> 01:42:40,800
had they don't

2876
01:42:45,510 --> 01:42:43,520
know me from a borrow soap and we had a

2877
01:42:48,550 --> 01:42:45,520
fully furnished apartment here you know

2878
01:42:50,390 --> 01:42:48,560
it was fantastic um you know

2879
01:42:52,229 --> 01:42:50,400
and then like i say since that whole

2880
01:42:53,750 --> 01:42:52,239
lockdown happened it was the same

2881
01:42:54,790 --> 01:42:53,760
scenario where people could help they

2882
01:42:57,030 --> 01:42:54,800
could help i mean

2883
01:42:58,550 --> 01:42:57,040
even in business where people were

2884
01:42:59,510 --> 01:42:58,560
earning commissions the first thing they

2885
01:43:01,350 --> 01:42:59,520
were talking about

2886
01:43:03,109 --> 01:43:01,360
is how much percentage can we take to

2887
01:43:05,590 --> 01:43:03,119
donate i mean

2888
01:43:07,510 --> 01:43:05,600
nobody asked anybody to do this nobody's

2889
01:43:10,550 --> 01:43:07,520
instructed to do this this was all just

2890
01:43:12,629 --> 01:43:10,560
people being people um

2891
01:43:14,149 --> 01:43:12,639
you know it doesn't solve the problems

2892
01:43:16,310 --> 01:43:14,159
but it's a hell of a good step in the

2893
01:43:19,590 --> 01:43:16,320
right direction

2894
01:43:22,470 --> 01:43:19,600
right right yeah it's um

2895
01:43:24,790 --> 01:43:22,480
you know i don't i don't know if um you

2896
01:43:25,590 --> 01:43:24,800
know so many times uh when when we all

2897
01:43:28,470 --> 01:43:25,600
talk about

2898
01:43:29,430 --> 01:43:28,480
somebody being asleep and someone being

2899
01:43:33,510 --> 01:43:29,440
awake

2900
01:43:36,550 --> 01:43:33,520
you know um it's it has never been

2901
01:43:39,270 --> 01:43:36,560
more apparent who's awake and who's

2902
01:43:43,109 --> 01:43:39,280
asleep during this pandemic

2903
01:43:45,510 --> 01:43:43,119
you know because the information

2904
01:43:47,189 --> 01:43:45,520
is there but how you look at that

2905
01:43:48,229 --> 01:43:47,199
information and how you choose to

2906
01:43:52,149 --> 01:43:48,239
interpret it

2907
01:43:53,990 --> 01:43:52,159
is what what's actually dividing a lot

2908
01:43:55,669 --> 01:43:54,000
because you can you can literally have

2909
01:43:58,870 --> 01:43:55,679
two people next to each other

2910
01:44:00,390 --> 01:43:58,880
looking at at some data and

2911
01:44:02,470 --> 01:44:00,400
one would say this the other one would

2912
01:44:05,510 --> 01:44:02,480
say that but i noticed

2913
01:44:07,189 --> 01:44:05,520
where one has said okay

2914
01:44:08,709 --> 01:44:07,199
we can agree to disagree but you're

2915
01:44:10,870 --> 01:44:08,719
still my brother the other must say i

2916
01:44:14,149 --> 01:44:10,880
will have nothing to do with you

2917
01:44:15,270 --> 01:44:14,159
you know yeah and so right you know and

2918
01:44:17,830 --> 01:44:15,280
that's what's so

2919
01:44:19,590 --> 01:44:17,840
what's so weird about that is that it it

2920
01:44:22,950 --> 01:44:19,600
you know to see that

2921
01:44:25,350 --> 01:44:22,960
full divide and it's um you know

2922
01:44:27,350 --> 01:44:25,360
because everyone is wants to talk about

2923
01:44:28,629 --> 01:44:27,360
love and always wants to talk about you

2924
01:44:31,990 --> 01:44:28,639
know getting together

2925
01:44:34,149 --> 01:44:32,000
but you know where is the

2926
01:44:35,590 --> 01:44:34,159
love like if i'm not wearing the mask

2927
01:44:37,510 --> 01:44:35,600
and you're spitting at me because i'm

2928
01:44:39,430 --> 01:44:37,520
not wearing a mask where's the love

2929
01:44:41,189 --> 01:44:39,440
right you know are you willing to

2930
01:44:43,430 --> 01:44:41,199
understand and listen to what i have to

2931
01:44:46,229 --> 01:44:43,440
say and what i've seen that you

2932
01:44:46,870 --> 01:44:46,239
were not privy to right and all these

2933
01:44:50,070 --> 01:44:46,880
things

2934
01:44:52,229 --> 01:44:50,080
that that kind of that are not i guess

2935
01:44:53,750 --> 01:44:52,239
generally publicly shared you know all

2936
01:44:55,910 --> 01:44:53,760
they know is like you know government

2937
01:44:57,350 --> 01:44:55,920
said this do as you told or else

2938
01:44:59,430 --> 01:44:57,360
you know and then i think that's very

2939
01:44:59,990 --> 01:44:59,440
sad especially for the american mindset

2940
01:45:02,390 --> 01:45:00,000
that

2941
01:45:03,510 --> 01:45:02,400
you know as americans we always just you

2942
01:45:06,709 --> 01:45:03,520
know live our

2943
01:45:08,470 --> 01:45:06,719
um

2944
01:45:10,629 --> 01:45:08,480
you know like i was saying several weeks

2945
01:45:12,550 --> 01:45:10,639
back like americans in a very good way

2946
01:45:14,550 --> 01:45:12,560
have this you mentality

2947
01:45:15,669 --> 01:45:14,560
you know it's like yeah uh in anything

2948
01:45:17,590 --> 01:45:15,679
they do it's like

2949
01:45:18,870 --> 01:45:17,600
you know when i lived in germany germans

2950
01:45:21,750 --> 01:45:18,880
you know are very

2951
01:45:22,470 --> 01:45:21,760
you know like let's say about to start a

2952
01:45:24,870 --> 01:45:22,480
business

2953
01:45:25,830 --> 01:45:24,880
you know they would um look at the cost

2954
01:45:27,990 --> 01:45:25,840
analysis

2955
01:45:29,910 --> 01:45:28,000
uh pre you know do projections figure

2956
01:45:30,950 --> 01:45:29,920
things out and sometimes not even start

2957
01:45:33,030 --> 01:45:30,960
before

2958
01:45:34,629 --> 01:45:33,040
they would not even go anywhere

2959
01:45:35,189 --> 01:45:34,639
basically it'll end before it even

2960
01:45:37,270 --> 01:45:35,199
started

2961
01:45:39,350 --> 01:45:37,280
right because they they logically

2962
01:45:40,950 --> 01:45:39,360
analyzed it and said okay well this is

2963
01:45:42,709 --> 01:45:40,960
not feasible we can't do this we're

2964
01:45:43,189 --> 01:45:42,719
going to go out of business in two years

2965
01:45:46,870 --> 01:45:43,199
so

2966
01:45:47,430 --> 01:45:46,880
you're perfect be perfect you think

2967
01:45:49,510 --> 01:45:47,440
about

2968
01:45:51,350 --> 01:45:49,520
and america is the only place i've seen

2969
01:45:53,030 --> 01:45:51,360
they're like we have no plan we have no

2970
01:45:57,109 --> 01:45:53,040
money let's do it

2971
01:45:58,790 --> 01:45:57,119
you know yeah yeah no i mean

2972
01:46:00,229 --> 01:45:58,800
what you talking about just going to the

2973
01:46:02,310 --> 01:46:00,239
mosques um

2974
01:46:03,750 --> 01:46:02,320
you know like i mentioned you just got

2975
01:46:06,629 --> 01:46:03,760
to bear in mind that

2976
01:46:08,550 --> 01:46:06,639
uh a lot of south africans especially

2977
01:46:09,830 --> 01:46:08,560
the black community

2978
01:46:11,910 --> 01:46:09,840
with what they've been through in the

2979
01:46:13,109 --> 01:46:11,920
past they're not educated people

2980
01:46:15,750 --> 01:46:13,119
normally

2981
01:46:17,510 --> 01:46:15,760
so you know in south africa the the

2982
01:46:19,030 --> 01:46:17,520
mentality is if you

2983
01:46:21,590 --> 01:46:19,040
if you're a black guy you work in

2984
01:46:23,189 --> 01:46:21,600
security or you work in

2985
01:46:25,350 --> 01:46:23,199
i don't want to call them menial jobs

2986
01:46:28,790 --> 01:46:25,360
because they're not menial jobs but they

2987
01:46:31,430 --> 01:46:28,800
you know low qualification jobs um

2988
01:46:32,390 --> 01:46:31,440
so anyway with the masks i mean uh like

2989
01:46:34,310 --> 01:46:32,400
you were saying

2990
01:46:35,990 --> 01:46:34,320
in the beginning they were saying well

2991
01:46:36,870 --> 01:46:36,000
please put your mask over your nose and

2992
01:46:39,350 --> 01:46:36,880
we would say no

2993
01:46:41,750 --> 01:46:39,360
you're crazy sorry not happening and it

2994
01:46:44,390 --> 01:46:41,760
would be this like huge public outcry

2995
01:46:46,229 --> 01:46:44,400
and they they can't understand why and

2996
01:46:47,189 --> 01:46:46,239
it i just thought about this it must be

2997
01:46:49,990 --> 01:46:47,199
confusing

2998
01:46:50,470 --> 01:46:50,000
as anything to someone who doesn't know

2999
01:46:52,709 --> 01:46:50,480
um

3000
01:46:53,990 --> 01:46:52,719
but look as time went on people actually

3001
01:46:55,990 --> 01:46:54,000
just educated each other

3002
01:46:58,950 --> 01:46:56,000
and these problems went away i mean it

3003
01:47:01,189 --> 01:46:58,960
was amazing to see

3004
01:47:02,390 --> 01:47:01,199
so you know from my perspective it's so

3005
01:47:04,070 --> 01:47:02,400
easy to say

3006
01:47:05,990 --> 01:47:04,080
this is wrong that's wrong this is wrong

3007
01:47:09,590 --> 01:47:06,000
but you always over look at what's

3008
01:47:11,430 --> 01:47:09,600
right right you know so

3009
01:47:12,870 --> 01:47:11,440
it's from from where i'm standing i just

3010
01:47:14,629 --> 01:47:12,880
saw some amazing things

3011
01:47:16,950 --> 01:47:14,639
it's it's i don't put it it's not all

3012
01:47:18,229 --> 01:47:16,960
roses but it's there was so much good to

3013
01:47:20,310 --> 01:47:18,239
see

3014
01:47:21,270 --> 01:47:20,320
right but that's good i'm glad i'm

3015
01:47:23,109 --> 01:47:21,280
really glad to

3016
01:47:25,910 --> 01:47:23,119
to to hear that and you know and thank

3017
01:47:28,070 --> 01:47:25,920
you and thank you for sharing that

3018
01:47:29,270 --> 01:47:28,080
yeah no sorry i had been the two cents

3019
01:47:31,350 --> 01:47:29,280
with that then it's just

3020
01:47:33,109 --> 01:47:31,360
you know that's pandemic yeah no don't

3021
01:47:33,590 --> 01:47:33,119
be sorry that's exactly why we're here

3022
01:47:37,189 --> 01:47:33,600
i'm just

3023
01:47:39,750 --> 01:47:37,199
uh trying to you know um because

3024
01:47:40,629 --> 01:47:39,760
it's smaller group on telegram you know

3025
01:47:43,030 --> 01:47:40,639
it's like i just

3026
01:47:45,030 --> 01:47:43,040
give more time to people chatting you

3027
01:47:47,189 --> 01:47:45,040
know back and forth if there were more

3028
01:47:48,790 --> 01:47:47,199
you know that would want to speak uh

3029
01:47:49,590 --> 01:47:48,800
maybe in the future i would have to

3030
01:47:51,270 --> 01:47:49,600
limit

3031
01:47:52,870 --> 01:47:51,280
you know the amount of time and then get

3032
01:47:53,590 --> 01:47:52,880
back to that person maybe later or

3033
01:47:55,830 --> 01:47:53,600
something but

3034
01:47:58,550 --> 01:47:55,840
there's no no no reason for excuse we're

3035
01:48:03,189 --> 01:47:58,560
just literally hanging out online

3036
01:48:05,270 --> 01:48:03,199
because we i don't know i just

3037
01:48:07,270 --> 01:48:05,280
like doing what we do i like doing what

3038
01:48:09,430 --> 01:48:07,280
i do and you guys find some value in

3039
01:48:11,830 --> 01:48:09,440
that so i'm glad you all here so

3040
01:48:14,310 --> 01:48:11,840
you know don't uh you know don't

3041
01:48:16,149 --> 01:48:14,320
apologize

3042
01:48:17,910 --> 01:48:16,159
yeah no no no as i say thank you for the

3043
01:48:20,390 --> 01:48:17,920
platform uh nathan no thanks for

3044
01:48:22,550 --> 01:48:20,400
bringing that up because you know

3045
01:48:24,310 --> 01:48:22,560
i know everybody's different around the

3046
01:48:25,270 --> 01:48:24,320
world and how we're experiencing things

3047
01:48:28,149 --> 01:48:25,280
but

3048
01:48:29,910 --> 01:48:28,159
you know for me i i really there's a lot

3049
01:48:31,270 --> 01:48:29,920
of bad but i mean i saw a lot of good

3050
01:48:32,149 --> 01:48:31,280
and that's that's really what i want to

3051
01:48:35,830 --> 01:48:32,159
convey

3052
01:48:36,550 --> 01:48:35,840
right um i just want to put the info out

3053
01:48:38,229 --> 01:48:36,560
there so if

3054
01:48:40,470 --> 01:48:38,239
if any of you watching this who would

3055
01:48:41,830 --> 01:48:40,480
like to maybe uh share your story

3056
01:48:43,910 --> 01:48:41,840
whatever it is that you would like to

3057
01:48:46,629 --> 01:48:43,920
talk about generally we discuss

3058
01:48:48,390 --> 01:48:46,639
um you know ufo spirituality metaphysics

3059
01:48:49,830 --> 01:48:48,400
but sometimes we cover other things like

3060
01:48:53,270 --> 01:48:49,840
we did today so

3061
01:48:53,750 --> 01:48:53,280
you know the topics are you know endless

3062
01:48:56,149 --> 01:48:53,760
you know

3063
01:48:58,229 --> 01:48:56,159
of course we always like to talk about

3064
01:48:59,030 --> 01:48:58,239
the good and weird stuff when it comes

3065
01:49:00,390 --> 01:48:59,040
to aliens

3066
01:49:03,270 --> 01:49:00,400
you know so you're always welcome to

3067
01:49:05,910 --> 01:49:03,280
share those stories but yeah just uh

3068
01:49:06,550 --> 01:49:05,920
log in raise your hand if you would like

3069
01:49:09,669 --> 01:49:06,560
to

3070
01:49:12,229 --> 01:49:09,679
we'll chat

3071
01:49:13,430 --> 01:49:12,239
if you just want to use a telegram to

3072
01:49:15,589 --> 01:49:13,440
just listen

3073
01:49:16,870 --> 01:49:15,599
since this is also simultaneously being

3074
01:49:20,310 --> 01:49:16,880
broadcasted there

3075
01:49:23,350 --> 01:49:20,320
then just uh tune in and enjoy listening

3076
01:49:27,270 --> 01:49:23,360
on your device that way

3077
01:49:28,550 --> 01:49:27,280
but yeah uh so uh bradley what that

3078
01:49:30,629 --> 01:49:28,560
is there anything else that you would

3079
01:49:32,070 --> 01:49:30,639
like to discuss or maybe

3080
01:49:33,750 --> 01:49:32,080
take a direction you would like to go

3081
01:49:36,390 --> 01:49:33,760
into

3082
01:49:37,109 --> 01:49:36,400
yeah and uh uh forgive me tonight and

3083
01:49:38,870 --> 01:49:37,119
then uh

3084
01:49:40,790 --> 01:49:38,880
on any other occasion i would have but

3085
01:49:46,149 --> 01:49:40,800
uh yeah let's just say my head's not

3086
01:49:49,350 --> 01:49:48,470
well thank you thank you for still

3087
01:49:52,229 --> 01:49:49,360
taking the time

3088
01:49:53,189 --> 01:49:52,239
you know and and and being being here

3089
01:49:54,629 --> 01:49:53,199
with us i

3090
01:49:56,629 --> 01:49:54,639
again i you know offer you my

3091
01:49:57,830 --> 01:49:56,639
condolences and just you know hang in

3092
01:50:00,870 --> 01:49:57,840
there you know you

3093
01:50:03,830 --> 01:50:00,880
you know by being part of the

3094
01:50:05,510 --> 01:50:03,840
the ufo hub group i'm more easily

3095
01:50:07,669 --> 01:50:05,520
accessible than any other platform

3096
01:50:10,070 --> 01:50:07,679
because that directly is connected to me

3097
01:50:10,790 --> 01:50:10,080
so anyone that ever wants to send me

3098
01:50:13,990 --> 01:50:10,800
messages

3099
01:50:17,510 --> 01:50:14,000
or even you know dial in through that

3100
01:50:20,070 --> 01:50:17,520
using the the the voice

3101
01:50:21,589 --> 01:50:20,080
uh chat you know can can do that so

3102
01:50:23,030 --> 01:50:21,599
you're always welcome to reach out that

3103
01:50:24,629 --> 01:50:23,040
way

3104
01:50:26,470 --> 01:50:24,639
yeah no as i say i just want to say

3105
01:50:27,830 --> 01:50:26,480
thank you i mean i followed you from

3106
01:50:29,589 --> 01:50:27,840
you know the first time you published

3107
01:50:31,830 --> 01:50:29,599
your first video and that's uh

3108
01:50:33,910 --> 01:50:31,840
yeah i i won't stay up it's not about a

3109
01:50:35,189 --> 01:50:33,920
groupie thing uh it's just i really

3110
01:50:38,310 --> 01:50:35,199
enjoy the subject and

3111
01:50:39,830 --> 01:50:38,320
i think so you're accessible i

3112
01:50:41,910 --> 01:50:39,840
appreciate it

3113
01:50:43,189 --> 01:50:41,920
all right well bradley i'm gonna meet

3114
01:50:46,229 --> 01:50:43,199
you and then i'll put

3115
01:50:51,510 --> 01:50:46,239
a new new paradigm think tank on

3116
01:50:56,149 --> 01:50:54,070
okay all right a new new paradigm you're

3117
01:50:59,350 --> 01:50:56,159
on just um mute yourself and uh

3118
01:51:04,310 --> 01:51:02,149
hello hello thank you hey it's the first

3119
01:51:07,589 --> 01:51:04,320
time i am using a voice

3120
01:51:09,510 --> 01:51:07,599
chat ever you're also

3121
01:51:11,990 --> 01:51:09,520
you're also broadcasted on youtube too

3122
01:51:15,189 --> 01:51:12,000
just in case you didn't know

3123
01:51:16,470 --> 01:51:15,199
oh no i didn't know i thought it was

3124
01:51:19,510 --> 01:51:16,480
only the four of us

3125
01:51:20,870 --> 01:51:19,520
oh jesus that's okay i mean if you don't

3126
01:51:22,229 --> 01:51:20,880
you know just letting you know in case

3127
01:51:26,149 --> 01:51:22,239
you didn't know i mean you're more than

3128
01:51:29,830 --> 01:51:27,910
i just mentioned it because you said oh

3129
01:51:31,589 --> 01:51:29,840
i'm you know my first time here and i

3130
01:51:32,310 --> 01:51:31,599
was like oh you might not know that this

3131
01:51:34,550 --> 01:51:32,320
is also

3132
01:51:35,510 --> 01:51:34,560
being broadcasted it's it's under in the

3133
01:51:38,470 --> 01:51:35,520
ufo hub

3134
01:51:40,470 --> 01:51:38,480
uh chat in the window itself there's a

3135
01:51:43,350 --> 01:51:40,480
open line link to it you can click it

3136
01:51:46,550 --> 01:51:43,360
and you can see a 20 second delay of me

3137
01:51:51,270 --> 01:51:49,669
okay okay good to know i'm almost empty

3138
01:51:54,629 --> 01:51:51,280
battery on my cell phone

3139
01:51:56,070 --> 01:51:54,639
okay oh sorry i'm an experiencer i am an

3140
01:51:58,390 --> 01:51:56,080
experiencer

3141
01:51:59,510 --> 01:51:58,400
and i never really talked about me like

3142
01:52:02,229 --> 01:51:59,520
that i

3143
01:52:06,070 --> 01:52:02,239
i decided to do so to reconcile my

3144
01:52:09,430 --> 01:52:06,080
spiritual and professional identity

3145
01:52:11,910 --> 01:52:09,440
so i am now a blockchain developer

3146
01:52:12,550 --> 01:52:11,920
and i'm working to develop some platform

3147
01:52:14,629 --> 01:52:12,560
for

3148
01:52:16,149 --> 01:52:14,639
free speech so people like me can have

3149
01:52:19,750 --> 01:52:16,159
their story told

3150
01:52:23,430 --> 01:52:19,760
and no one to censor them so i invite

3151
01:52:26,950 --> 01:52:23,440
your listeners to to ex to explore what

3152
01:52:30,550 --> 01:52:26,960
the web 3.0 has to offer and especially

3153
01:52:33,109 --> 01:52:30,560
the blockchain technologies and

3154
01:52:34,310 --> 01:52:33,119
maybe specifically one of the blockchain

3155
01:52:37,669 --> 01:52:34,320
i am working on

3156
01:52:39,990 --> 01:52:37,679
the hive blockchain and

3157
01:52:41,589 --> 01:52:40,000
this is uh my message if your battery if

3158
01:52:43,030 --> 01:52:41,599
your battery allows can you

3159
01:52:46,310 --> 01:52:43,040
give us a little bit more info that

3160
01:52:49,350 --> 01:52:48,790
uh you would like to receive more info

3161
01:52:51,270 --> 01:52:49,360
yeah just

3162
01:52:52,950 --> 01:52:51,280
for you telling us a little more about

3163
01:52:54,870 --> 01:52:52,960
um uh

3164
01:52:56,149 --> 01:52:54,880
for those that are not too aware the web

3165
01:53:00,550 --> 01:52:56,159
3.0

3166
01:53:04,950 --> 01:53:03,189
okay well i am not an expert but i can

3167
01:53:08,390 --> 01:53:04,960
tell what i know

3168
01:53:11,830 --> 01:53:08,400
it is uh let's say an evolution of the

3169
01:53:14,229 --> 01:53:11,840
web technology and internet technology

3170
01:53:15,510 --> 01:53:14,239
you know everything runs on servers but

3171
01:53:18,310 --> 01:53:15,520
if those servers are

3172
01:53:19,030 --> 01:53:18,320
centralized there's a kill switch that

3173
01:53:22,149 --> 01:53:19,040
can

3174
01:53:25,430 --> 01:53:22,159
terminate all internet access to that

3175
01:53:28,870 --> 01:53:25,440
server it could be a video

3176
01:53:31,669 --> 01:53:28,880
databank or your personal information

3177
01:53:32,950 --> 01:53:31,679
whereas blockchain has some sort of a

3178
01:53:35,270 --> 01:53:32,960
different way to

3179
01:53:36,790 --> 01:53:35,280
to host data and that data can be

3180
01:53:40,550 --> 01:53:36,800
distributed on multiple

3181
01:53:43,830 --> 01:53:40,560
servers and spiritually speaking it's

3182
01:53:46,870 --> 01:53:43,840
a lot more secure to censorship and

3183
01:53:49,189 --> 01:53:46,880
banning and or attacks of any sort in

3184
01:53:52,149 --> 01:53:49,199
the digital world you know

3185
01:53:54,070 --> 01:53:52,159
we are under a digital war and

3186
01:53:58,149 --> 01:53:54,080
protecting data and data access

3187
01:54:01,589 --> 01:53:58,159
and data distribution in a digital war

3188
01:54:03,750 --> 01:54:01,599
is very uh important so blockchain is

3189
01:54:06,950 --> 01:54:03,760
coming as a solution to all those

3190
01:54:10,310 --> 01:54:06,960
problems what is um

3191
01:54:12,229 --> 01:54:10,320
so the blockchain itself is obviously um

3192
01:54:13,669 --> 01:54:12,239
would you if i'm understanding correctly

3193
01:54:15,030 --> 01:54:13,679
it's independent from the different

3194
01:54:16,790 --> 01:54:15,040
cryptos out there correct

3195
01:54:19,430 --> 01:54:16,800
because you can create a blockchain

3196
01:54:22,950 --> 01:54:19,440
based on anything

3197
01:54:25,750 --> 01:54:22,960
well the way i understand it and

3198
01:54:27,189 --> 01:54:25,760
all the blockchains that exist uh have

3199
01:54:31,109 --> 01:54:27,199
uh what they call a basic

3200
01:54:34,950 --> 01:54:31,119
coin or the a basic crypto

3201
01:54:36,950 --> 01:54:34,960
so like bitcoin is a bitcoin

3202
01:54:38,310 --> 01:54:36,960
oh so so basically the are you saying

3203
01:54:41,270 --> 01:54:38,320
that the infrastructure

3204
01:54:41,669 --> 01:54:41,280
the the blockchain in which each crypto

3205
01:54:43,750 --> 01:54:41,679
is

3206
01:54:44,790 --> 01:54:43,760
based on that's the same blockchain

3207
01:54:48,629 --> 01:54:44,800
being used

3208
01:54:51,830 --> 01:54:48,639
now to i guess develop different things

3209
01:54:55,189 --> 01:54:51,840
oh yes the blockchain let's say a block

3210
01:54:55,510 --> 01:54:55,199
is let's say three minutes of um an open

3211
01:54:58,709 --> 01:54:55,520
book

3212
01:55:01,830 --> 01:54:58,719
ledger all the transactions that occur

3213
01:55:05,990 --> 01:55:01,840
on the network are record

3214
01:55:08,950 --> 01:55:06,000
in a ledger so a block of three minutes

3215
01:55:09,910 --> 01:55:08,960
correspond of all the transactions that

3216
01:55:11,669 --> 01:55:09,920
occur

3217
01:55:12,950 --> 01:55:11,679
on the blockchain within that three

3218
01:55:15,830 --> 01:55:12,960
minutes

3219
01:55:16,830 --> 01:55:15,840
so that box get encrypted and a new

3220
01:55:19,669 --> 01:55:16,840
three minute blocks

3221
01:55:20,470 --> 01:55:19,679
starts and you cannot read the second

3222
01:55:23,430 --> 01:55:20,480
block

3223
01:55:25,510 --> 01:55:23,440
without being able to decrypt the first

3224
01:55:29,030 --> 01:55:25,520
and there and so on

3225
01:55:32,149 --> 01:55:29,040
you cannot alter

3226
01:55:35,030 --> 01:55:32,159
the history of the database because

3227
01:55:36,149 --> 01:55:35,040
okay it's secure that way well thank you

3228
01:55:38,709 --> 01:55:36,159
thank you very much for

3229
01:55:42,229 --> 01:55:38,719
for clarifying that would you maybe like

3230
01:55:48,950 --> 01:55:46,629
uh yeah well as an experiencer

3231
01:55:50,790 --> 01:55:48,960
well i have a very creative mind and

3232
01:55:55,350 --> 01:55:50,800
sometimes i wonder

3233
01:55:58,310 --> 01:55:55,360
where that creativity comes from because

3234
01:56:01,030 --> 01:55:58,320
it seems to me that there's there's

3235
01:56:04,470 --> 01:56:01,040
something uh

3236
01:56:06,550 --> 01:56:04,480
possibly um pushing thoughts on us on

3237
01:56:09,669 --> 01:56:06,560
people like

3238
01:56:11,910 --> 01:56:09,679
you know insights sometimes

3239
01:56:13,750 --> 01:56:11,920
right well i mean i was asking

3240
01:56:17,589 --> 01:56:13,760
specifically about the experience itself

3241
01:56:23,669 --> 01:56:19,189
when you say experience are you talking

3242
01:56:31,750 --> 01:56:28,070
yeah all that esps um

3243
01:56:36,149 --> 01:56:31,760
weird dreams uh out of body experiences

3244
01:56:39,189 --> 01:56:36,159
um everything that makes uh the weird uh

3245
01:56:42,870 --> 01:56:39,199
and fringe community i experienced it

3246
01:56:45,510 --> 01:56:42,880
since my childhood and i rather

3247
01:56:48,070 --> 01:56:45,520
kept it hidden because you know the

3248
01:56:50,149 --> 01:56:48,080
community and judgement from others

3249
01:56:51,430 --> 01:56:50,159
but you know over time learning about

3250
01:56:54,550 --> 01:56:51,440
the self-empowerment

3251
01:56:57,830 --> 01:56:54,560
and knowing to uh learning to

3252
01:56:58,870 --> 01:56:57,840
honor throat you know inner truth to be

3253
01:57:01,990 --> 01:56:58,880
in resonance

3254
01:57:02,709 --> 01:57:02,000
with the inner truth helps one being

3255
01:57:06,390 --> 01:57:02,719
more

3256
01:57:12,629 --> 01:57:06,400
powerful and

3257
01:57:18,950 --> 01:57:16,310
with truth and love yeah

3258
01:57:19,830 --> 01:57:18,960
okay um maybe you said this um can you

3259
01:57:24,470 --> 01:57:19,840
at least share

3260
01:57:28,070 --> 01:57:24,480
which general location you're from

3261
01:57:31,270 --> 01:57:28,080
i am from canada okay good deal

3262
01:57:32,790 --> 01:57:31,280
so um so any

3263
01:57:34,390 --> 01:57:32,800
you don't want to share any of the

3264
01:57:37,109 --> 01:57:34,400
specific ones now just

3265
01:57:38,629 --> 01:57:37,119
something give us a little little intro

3266
01:57:41,189 --> 01:57:38,639
to it

3267
01:57:42,550 --> 01:57:41,199
uh yeah well maybe i could uh invite

3268
01:57:44,629 --> 01:57:42,560
people because

3269
01:57:45,830 --> 01:57:44,639
my story a big bunch of my story i've

3270
01:57:49,430 --> 01:57:45,840
already told on

3271
01:57:52,709 --> 01:57:49,440
five blockchain so those posts

3272
01:57:55,430 --> 01:57:52,719
they cannot be deleted so

3273
01:57:58,070 --> 01:57:55,440
if i am saying something there that some

3274
01:58:01,189 --> 01:57:58,080
powers that they don't want me to say

3275
01:58:04,470 --> 01:58:01,199
well it's there anyway right

3276
01:58:05,990 --> 01:58:04,480
so instead of me spending a lot of time

3277
01:58:09,189 --> 01:58:06,000
right now to talk to your

3278
01:58:09,910 --> 01:58:09,199
listeners i invite them to to google or

3279
01:58:11,990 --> 01:58:09,920
something

3280
01:58:13,109 --> 01:58:12,000
to find a way to access the hive

3281
01:58:16,390 --> 01:58:13,119
blockchain

3282
01:58:20,870 --> 01:58:16,400
and look for the username new paradigm

3283
01:58:22,790 --> 01:58:20,880
tt so that's me me

3284
01:58:24,790 --> 01:58:22,800
are you on telegram using your computer

3285
01:58:28,629 --> 01:58:24,800
or the phone

3286
01:58:30,310 --> 01:58:28,639
i am on a phone almost out of battery

3287
01:58:32,229 --> 01:58:30,320
yeah okay oh yeah that's right you said

3288
01:58:33,030 --> 01:58:32,239
earlier what i was gonna say there's

3289
01:58:35,109 --> 01:58:33,040
also

3290
01:58:36,709 --> 01:58:35,119
because of i wanted the ability for

3291
01:58:40,870 --> 01:58:36,719
everyone to be able to comment

3292
01:58:42,790 --> 01:58:40,880
on the things i post on in on ufo hub

3293
01:58:44,470 --> 01:58:42,800
telegram for some reason requires them

3294
01:58:47,990 --> 01:58:44,480
to set up like a separate

3295
01:58:51,189 --> 01:58:48,000
uh i guess separate link or

3296
01:58:53,750 --> 01:58:51,199
room for it and it's called ufo hub chat

3297
01:58:54,550 --> 01:58:53,760
so from the main ufo hub group which you

3298
01:58:56,229 --> 01:58:54,560
are in now

3299
01:58:57,990 --> 01:58:56,239
obviously because we're listening you

3300
01:59:00,470 --> 01:58:58,000
know you'll be able to log in

3301
01:59:01,270 --> 01:59:00,480
there's ufo hub chat and in there you

3302
01:59:04,550 --> 01:59:01,280
can

3303
01:59:07,750 --> 01:59:04,560
yourself in there

3304
01:59:10,229 --> 01:59:07,760
so that anyone else that sees it can

3305
01:59:11,350 --> 01:59:10,239
can visit it and go see what it is now

3306
01:59:13,589 --> 01:59:11,360
you explain to me what

3307
01:59:14,470 --> 01:59:13,599
i usually just you know discourage

3308
01:59:16,149 --> 01:59:14,480
things that are

3309
01:59:17,589 --> 01:59:16,159
pornographic in nature or something

3310
01:59:19,510 --> 01:59:17,599
disturbing and some

3311
01:59:21,350 --> 01:59:19,520
silly stuff but if it's something

3312
01:59:22,550 --> 01:59:21,360
pertinent to the subject we talked about

3313
01:59:24,550 --> 01:59:22,560
i welcome people

3314
01:59:28,390 --> 01:59:24,560
you know to share you know something

3315
01:59:30,310 --> 01:59:28,400
what you just mentioned or other things

3316
01:59:31,430 --> 01:59:30,320
of course thank you yes i'll do i'll

3317
01:59:33,669 --> 01:59:31,440
post bling

3318
01:59:35,109 --> 01:59:33,679
and i'll say you uh goodbye and thank

3319
01:59:39,030 --> 01:59:35,119
you for receiving me tonight

3320
01:59:42,390 --> 01:59:39,040
thank you thank you thank you

3321
01:59:42,950 --> 01:59:42,400
all right um so if if no one else wants

3322
01:59:46,310 --> 01:59:42,960
to

3323
01:59:50,870 --> 01:59:46,320
this conversation

3324
01:59:53,830 --> 01:59:50,880
um on on telegram i i guess we can um

3325
01:59:54,229 --> 01:59:53,840
you know end it today uh for today i'm

3326
01:59:57,669 --> 01:59:54,239
still

3327
01:59:59,669 --> 01:59:57,679
trying to um to figure out some things

3328
02:00:00,950 --> 01:59:59,679
which had delayed me and trying to find

3329
02:00:03,189 --> 02:00:00,960
a guest this friday

3330
02:00:04,390 --> 02:00:03,199
but as soon as i have a guest you will

3331
02:00:07,430 --> 02:00:04,400
know because then i

3332
02:00:10,470 --> 02:00:07,440
i'll usually post this the stream

3333
02:00:13,830 --> 02:00:10,480
um up there and uh

3334
02:00:15,750 --> 02:00:13,840
you'll be able to um

3335
02:00:18,070 --> 02:00:15,760
to see it as part of the page because

3336
02:00:20,070 --> 02:00:18,080
it'll be scheduled saying friday 7 p.m

3337
02:00:21,990 --> 02:00:20,080
central time and then it'll show up

3338
02:00:24,149 --> 02:00:22,000
which guest is going to be on

3339
02:00:25,510 --> 02:00:24,159
i know i'm having a an interview

3340
02:00:28,070 --> 02:00:25,520
tomorrow which will

3341
02:00:29,109 --> 02:00:28,080
be part of the webcast which i'll post

3342
02:00:32,790 --> 02:00:29,119
next week

3343
02:00:35,830 --> 02:00:32,800
and um you'll find out more about that

3344
02:00:36,790 --> 02:00:35,840
but um i guess maybe it might be too

3345
02:00:39,189 --> 02:00:36,800
late now because

3346
02:00:40,070 --> 02:00:39,199
not enough people could you know are

3347
02:00:42,709 --> 02:00:40,080
probably aware

3348
02:00:44,070 --> 02:00:42,719
are watching right now but i will most

3349
02:00:47,189 --> 02:00:44,080
likely gonna have a

3350
02:00:50,709 --> 02:00:47,199
a interview or a live show

3351
02:00:52,950 --> 02:00:50,719
on monday just for this one time um

3352
02:00:54,070 --> 02:00:52,960
at least for next week because this

3353
02:00:56,790 --> 02:00:54,080
person that

3354
02:00:57,990 --> 02:00:56,800
i have not 100 confirmed i think you

3355
02:01:00,629 --> 02:00:58,000
guys would like very much

3356
02:01:02,070 --> 02:01:00,639
he's a very well-known uh figure in the

3357
02:01:05,030 --> 02:01:02,080
ufo community

3358
02:01:06,870 --> 02:01:05,040
and he cannot do any of the other days

3359
02:01:09,750 --> 02:01:06,880
but monday at 7 pm

3360
02:01:10,470 --> 02:01:09,760
works best for him so i hope you can

3361
02:01:13,109 --> 02:01:10,480
tune in

3362
02:01:14,629 --> 02:01:13,119
and just you know listen to the

3363
02:01:15,430 --> 02:01:14,639
interview and then chime in with some

3364
02:01:19,510 --> 02:01:15,440
questions later

3365
02:01:21,430 --> 02:01:19,520
later on but um yeah so

3366
02:01:23,510 --> 02:01:21,440
occasionally as i mentioned in other

3367
02:01:25,510 --> 02:01:23,520
shows i would have to do

3368
02:01:27,109 --> 02:01:25,520
some odd days where i have like let's

3369
02:01:28,950 --> 02:01:27,119
say a monday live show

3370
02:01:30,390 --> 02:01:28,960
and i'll still have wednesdays open

3371
02:01:34,629 --> 02:01:30,400
lines and fridays

3372
02:01:38,229 --> 02:01:34,639
um fridays live stream as well

3373
02:01:39,189 --> 02:01:38,239
but this would be a third live stream

3374
02:01:41,910 --> 02:01:39,199
for that week

3375
02:01:42,790 --> 02:01:41,920
which would be monday but it's not 100

3376
02:01:44,950 --> 02:01:42,800
confirmed

3377
02:01:46,149 --> 02:01:44,960
and uh once i know that for sure i'll

3378
02:01:47,750 --> 02:01:46,159
create again a

3379
02:01:49,990 --> 02:01:47,760
live stream put it out there and it'll

3380
02:01:53,430 --> 02:01:50,000
be clear that it's happening

3381
02:01:54,950 --> 02:01:53,440
plus also on the ufo hub youtube channel

3382
02:01:57,830 --> 02:01:54,960
under the community tab

3383
02:01:58,629 --> 02:01:57,840
i like to keep you guys posted as often

3384
02:02:01,830 --> 02:01:58,639
as i can

3385
02:02:02,470 --> 02:02:01,840
so please keep keep keep a look out for

3386
02:02:04,950 --> 02:02:02,480
that

3387
02:02:05,510 --> 02:02:04,960
and just anything new will pop out on

3388
02:02:08,310 --> 02:02:05,520
there

3389
02:02:09,109 --> 02:02:08,320
i use some of the other platforms as

3390
02:02:12,629 --> 02:02:09,119
well like

3391
02:02:14,790 --> 02:02:12,639
facebook and twitter but i find

3392
02:02:15,990 --> 02:02:14,800
it's more engaging using youtube and the

3393
02:02:18,149 --> 02:02:16,000
community tab

3394
02:02:19,589 --> 02:02:18,159
and using telegram than any of these

3395
02:02:20,629 --> 02:02:19,599
other platforms i don't know what's

3396
02:02:22,950 --> 02:02:20,639
going on if it's

3397
02:02:25,350 --> 02:02:22,960
like shadow banning or just less

3398
02:02:28,070 --> 02:02:25,360
engagement or whatever it is the point

3399
02:02:29,750 --> 02:02:28,080
uh is that i feel like i'm getting to

3400
02:02:32,790 --> 02:02:29,760
more people using

3401
02:02:34,629 --> 02:02:32,800
the community tab to post messages there

3402
02:02:35,189 --> 02:02:34,639
as opposed to any of the other social

3403
02:02:37,109 --> 02:02:35,199
media

3404
02:02:39,109 --> 02:02:37,119
but of course whatever i post there i

3405
02:02:41,030 --> 02:02:39,119
copy and paste it throughout so that if

3406
02:02:43,430 --> 02:02:41,040
you are following your for hub on

3407
02:02:44,070 --> 02:02:43,440
on facebook or twitter you'll still be

3408
02:02:47,589 --> 02:02:44,080
able to

3409
02:02:50,709 --> 02:02:47,599
to see what's going on okay

3410
02:02:51,109 --> 02:02:50,719
all right well there's i guess no one

3411
02:02:54,149 --> 02:02:51,119
else

3412
02:02:54,870 --> 02:02:54,159
wants raising your hand to to chat and

3413
02:02:57,030 --> 02:02:54,880
um

3414
02:02:59,109 --> 02:02:57,040
it sounds like you guys have been having

3415
02:03:01,109 --> 02:02:59,119
an awesome time in the chat room

3416
02:03:03,109 --> 02:03:01,119
going back and forth i don't you know

3417
02:03:05,510 --> 02:03:03,119
unfortunately i don't have a moderator

3418
02:03:06,149 --> 02:03:05,520
so i'm hoping that things were going

3419
02:03:09,589 --> 02:03:06,159
okay

3420
02:03:10,310 --> 02:03:09,599
i'm working on um uh getting somebody to

3421
02:03:13,030 --> 02:03:10,320
just kind of

3422
02:03:14,070 --> 02:03:13,040
keep an eye on on the chat because

3423
02:03:16,950 --> 02:03:14,080
sometimes

3424
02:03:18,310 --> 02:03:16,960
some people are constantly being rude or

3425
02:03:20,470 --> 02:03:18,320
belligerent to

3426
02:03:22,070 --> 02:03:20,480
you know have them basically removed so

3427
02:03:23,510 --> 02:03:22,080
that the rest of the group can

3428
02:03:25,270 --> 02:03:23,520
you know have a have a peaceful

3429
02:03:28,390 --> 02:03:25,280
conversation

3430
02:03:29,189 --> 02:03:28,400
but okay so thank you all very much

3431
02:03:32,470 --> 02:03:29,199
everyone

3432
02:03:34,709 --> 02:03:32,480
on telegram thanks um thanks a lot for

3433
02:03:35,510 --> 02:03:34,719
for being on i really appreciate you and

3434
02:03:38,149 --> 02:03:35,520
um

3435
02:03:39,510 --> 02:03:38,159
uh tune in again next week and uh love

3436
02:03:42,629 --> 02:03:39,520
to chat with you guys

3437
02:03:44,870 --> 02:03:42,639
um if you like this video please

3438
02:03:46,310 --> 02:03:44,880
uh subscribe or hit a like which would

3439
02:03:49,350 --> 02:03:46,320
help with the

3440
02:03:50,310 --> 02:03:49,360
youtube algorithm and of course share it

3441
02:03:52,550 --> 02:03:50,320
with your friends

3442
02:03:53,350 --> 02:03:52,560
and let them know about it if they're

3443
02:03:56,229 --> 02:03:53,360
just

3444
02:03:58,550 --> 02:03:56,239
interested in listening or maybe sharing

3445
02:04:00,709 --> 02:03:58,560
some of their stories themselves

3446
02:04:01,589 --> 02:04:00,719
let them know how they can do that using

3447
02:04:03,510 --> 02:04:01,599
telegram

3448
02:04:04,870 --> 02:04:03,520
and that way they'll connect to me

3449
02:04:07,669 --> 02:04:04,880
directly and

3450
02:04:08,870 --> 02:04:07,679
we can we can discuss the stories so

3451
02:04:11,990 --> 02:04:08,880
anyway

3452
02:04:13,589 --> 02:04:12,000
everyone in telegram have a good day

3453
02:04:14,310 --> 02:04:13,599
have a good night wherever you are i

3454
02:04:17,109 --> 02:04:14,320
appreciate it

3455
02:04:17,750 --> 02:04:17,119
everyone in chat on youtube thank you

3456
02:04:21,430 --> 02:04:17,760
all

3457
02:04:25,109 --> 02:04:21,440
um have a good day have a good night and

3458
02:04:27,669 --> 02:04:25,119
so tune in friday 7 p.m central time

3459
02:04:30,149 --> 02:04:27,679
and hopefully but then we'll have a

3460
02:04:32,069 --> 02:04:30,159
guest secured and we'll go from there